CNN Gives Trump The Lead In Ohio By Polling No One Under 50 Years Old

[Skidmore]

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/14/cnn-trump-lead-ohio-polling-50-years.html

A new poll showing Donald Trump leading Hillary Clinton by 4 points in Ohio set the media buzzing, but a look at the polling data reveals that CNN may have polled no one under 50 years old.

CNN touted their new poll of Ohio as Trump making gains in swing states, “With eight weeks to go before Election Day, Donald Trump holds a narrow lead over Hillary Clinton in Ohio and the two are locked in a near-even contest in Florida, according to new CNN/ORC polls in the two critical battleground states.”

Well, that certainly sounds dramatic, but a look at the crosstabs of the poll shows that things may not be exactly what CNN is suggesting they are in the Buckeye State.

There was something odd about the age of the respondents:...more

[niyad]

1. well, that certainly explains a few things!

[still_one]

2. Why don't they just poll trump and his family?

[ffr]

4. or poll all the 14/88's out there.

That would be a poll favoring Trump by 100% margins.

more on what that represents or you can Wiki it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2416703

[Charles Bukowski]

3. Yup, I knew it

If anyone still has doubts that the MSM is pushing a "Trump is surging" narrative, feel free to erase them.

[Matthew28]

5. disgraceful,

What about there Florida poll?

[Greywing]

18. same thing on FL poll - no one polled between the ages of 18-49. Totally unscientific poll

[ffr]

6. Whoopsie! CNN = horse race

Gotta make it appear that the race is tightening so people will tune in, you now!

[Imperialism Inc.]

7. Seems unlikely.

The crosstab has a column for "Under 45". So the N/As are probably just an error.

[VMA131Marine]

11. The MOE is huge for the under 45 sample

Must have been a much smaller number of under-45's than over-45's.

[Imperialism Inc.]

14. Which might explain why they didn't break it down further as well.

Still not the case that they didn't poll anyone under 50 though, obviously.

[Wellstone ruled]

8. This so called POS was released 5:00AM EDT

via Bloomberg. The damage is already done my friends. Every News room in the Country reported this as fact and they still are using this as a lead story this evening.

[ffr]

12. Just means tomorrow's polls will swing back to normal

And HRC back out front where she is today.

[Wellstone ruled]

15. CNN just blew it again by

parroting their new ORC poll and we know how that organization works. Same crap different name.

[Dawson Leery]

16. American media is garbage.

[Egnever]

19. Damage? What damage?

All this does is motivate people to get out and work harder to ensure his demise. This fake poll is a blessing.

[Wellstone ruled]

23. For those who THINK,for those who don't

well that is another story. The so called Media is having anti Clinton fest.

[liberal N proud]

9. Artificially skewed polls

Renders credibility of future polls worthless.

[Ace Rothstein]

10. They usually don't list a crosstab for a small sample group.

Maybe they underpolled those age groups. I have a difficult time believing the 35-49 group is small enough not to show crossroads. I'm not going to start unskewing polls though.

[geek tragedy]

13. the n/a means that particular crosstab was too small to be useful

for data analysis

[Doctor Jack]

17. Da Fuck?

That is really bizarre.

[daligirrl]

20. I have had this nagging feeling

That the polls are being manipulated. I believe in my gut that Hillary is much farther ahead than they are letting on, and I think that her internal polling probably shows it. I also believe that minorities are being vastly underpolled However, a little fear will get people out to vote!

[uponit7771]

22. +1

[Loki Liesmith]

21. This is incorrect.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/776179705447931904

[grubbs]

24. I Have noticed that CNN polls have lately been skewed toward Trump

Even when Fox polls were not. CNN is banking that Fox News will buckle under the Ailes bullshit.( It wont. Most Fox viewers would gladly harass those women themselves and see nothing wrong with it) My conclusion is that CNN can lick that itchy spot on my taint.

[TeamPooka]

25. Spread this news far and wide. Fight the media spin to hurt Hillary. nt

[Farmgirl1961]

26. But Nate Silver 538

Shows Ohio and North Carolina in R territory...which wasn't the case just a couple of days ago.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Call me a worry wart, but Hillary's numbers dipped down more than 5% points in one day on Nate Silver 538. I don't know how their polling is done and over what period of time.

[Loki Liesmith]

27. What fraction of your 92 posts thus far have included the word "worry"?

That would make some folks who are less charitable than this god of lies suspicious.

[Farmgirl1961]

28. So if one worries that's an automatic ringer for "Troll"

I don't and won't apologize for feeling worried. I'm not liking all the MSM bias toward Trump and against Hillary. I find it unfair, unjustified, contemptible and unprofessional. If that kind of worry makes me some kind of Troll, then so be it. If this isn't the forum to discuss concern and worry and it's all about the "happy place", I guess this forum isn't for me. If all we do is suspect one another of being "Trolls" or not really being Democrats or left leaning or whatever, then I guess this forum isn't for me. I'm looking for an opportunity to vent a little and also figure out what is going on and how to make sure that Trump is NEVER president. I thought I was finding like-minded souls here; not judgmental people. Perhaps I was wrong.

I was an avid Bernie Sanders supporter and I'm 110% behind Hillary Clinton. But, Trump and his minions have somehow managed to keep every non-worthy "news" story about Hillary alive, while they get away with telling lies. Yes, I am concerned and I do worry that day after day of bashing Hillary will have a negative impact. I am concerned and I'm proud to be concerned.

I will take my concerns and my worries elsewhere and I wish nothing but "positive thoughts" at the DU forum.

Kindly,
Farmgirl1961

[Grown2Hate]

29. And, if I'm reading it right, polled ZERO people in the Cleveland area! LoL

GREAT methodology there.

A link to the crosstabs: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/09/14/ohiopoll.pdf