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Overwhelming support for Hillary from women, black & Latino voters rarely mentioned in 'close' polls (Original Post) bigtree Sep 2016 OP
But everyone knows that voters are so UNENTHUSIASTIC about Clinton. sarae Sep 2016 #1
It's not just about the majority, it's about how many show up to vote. JRLeft Sep 2016 #2
and there are more women than men still_one Sep 2016 #3
and women vote in much greater numbers bigtree Sep 2016 #6
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Sep 2016 #12
But the men running the conversation don't see any of us.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #13
Because they think they've got us tucked away JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #14
41% of white voters for HRC; 41% of women, including white women voters for HRC Iliyah Sep 2016 #4
yes bigtree Sep 2016 #7
Meanwhile in 2012... EarlG Sep 2016 #5
okay bigtree Sep 2016 #8
Seems that way EarlG Sep 2016 #10
Great stats JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #16
"How many bilingual pollsters are involved in the polling?" oasis Sep 2016 #9
good question bigtree Sep 2016 #11
Nor is the fact Trump does worse than Romney with almost every category... JCMach1 Sep 2016 #15

sarae

(3,284 posts)
1. But everyone knows that voters are so UNENTHUSIASTIC about Clinton.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:24 AM
Sep 2016
Apparently the only voters that count, according to the media, are white ones.
 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
2. It's not just about the majority, it's about how many show up to vote.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:28 AM
Sep 2016

If she can't match or surpass Obama's numbers the race will be a toss up. If she does the race is over.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. 41% of white voters for HRC; 41% of women, including white women voters for HRC
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:34 AM
Sep 2016

In the recent polling the pollsters underestimate % of POC and the young and focus mainly on "White voters". The rate they are determining, all "white" or 95% will vote for T-rump which is not accurate. Factor in, I'll say HRC is in very good shape.

EarlG

(21,960 posts)
5. Meanwhile in 2012...
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:34 AM
Sep 2016

Romney won 59% of white voters (4% more than McCain in 2008). And Romney won 54% of male voters (8% more than McCain in 2008).

So to recap, that's:

Romney 2012: 59% of white voters | Trump 2016: 51% of white voters
Romney 2012: 54% of male voters | Trump 2016: 50% of male voters

I expect President Romney is probably feeling worried about these numbers.

https://www.thenation.com/article/bad-news-about-white-people-romney-won-white-vote-almost-everywhere/
http://www.gallup.com/poll/158588/gender-gap-2012-vote-largest-gallup-history.aspx

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
8. okay
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:39 AM
Sep 2016

...that's what I'm seeing.

Hillary is not only challenging Trump with white and male voters, she's more competitive than our last Democratic nominee.

EarlG

(21,960 posts)
10. Seems that way
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:49 AM
Sep 2016

Trump certainly appears to be massively underperforming Romney in most cases.

Romney won 44% of the female vote in 2012, and 17% of the non-white vote. Meanwhile Trump is winning 35% of the female vote in 2016, and 19% of the non-white vote.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/03/31/pollster-gop-must-nearly-double-share-of-non-white-vote-to-win-white-house/

oasis

(49,398 posts)
9. "How many bilingual pollsters are involved in the polling?"
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:44 AM
Sep 2016

A question asked by a Clinton surrogate yesterday.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
11. good question
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:51 AM
Sep 2016

...they must know or strongly suspect the number of bilingual canvassers is lacking.

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