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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:12 AM Sep 2016

GOP policy expert predicts debate failure for Trump: ‘He can’t fake his way through 90 minutes’

A Republican Party policy guru predicts the upcoming presidential debate won’t go well for Donald Trump, who’s already complaining that he won’t get a fair shot.

Hillary Clinton has scaled back her campaign schedule this week to prepare for Monday’s debate against her Republican rival, while Trump asks his supporters what he should say and “works the refs” by claiming the debates are “rigged” against him. But, according to CNN contributor and Hoover Institution research fellow Lanhee Chen, the real estate developer and former reality TV star won’t be able to wing it in this debate like he did during the GOP primaries.

“He can’t fake his way through 90 minutes,” said Chen, in an appearance on CNN’s “Party People” podcast with Kevin Madden and Mary Katherine Ham.

Chen, who worked on the presidential campaigns for Mitt Romney and Marco Rubio, said voters in the general election expect to hear more substance than GOP primary voters. “The 90-minute general election format makes it a lot harder to one line your way through it,” Chen said. “I think it’s going to be very, very hard for Donald Trump to spend 90 minutes bumper-stickering. I think he’s got to have something.”

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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/gop-policy-expert-predicts-debate-failure-for-trump-he-cant-fake-his-way-through-90-minutes/

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GOP policy expert predicts debate failure for Trump: ‘He can’t fake his way through 90 minutes’ (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2016 OP
As long as the media is fair, he'll lose Mz Pip Sep 2016 #1
Will the press be looking for substance or wisecracks? C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #2
Gotta like HRC's prep team over Trump's. saltpoint Sep 2016 #3
Unless there is a major gaffe either way, it's mostly a draw nolabels Sep 2016 #5
Trump advanced when he shot the gap saltpoint Sep 2016 #6
I hope you are correct, but my prediction is in the thinking of the news culture that generates it. nolabels Sep 2016 #7
There is considerable investment in outcomes, saltpoint Sep 2016 #8
Since the M$M won't fact check candidates, here's what I think the result will be ffr Sep 2016 #4

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
1. As long as the media is fair, he'll lose
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:16 AM
Sep 2016

But the media has lowered the bar so much for trump he usually just skates over it.

Maybe they'll finally start holding him to the same standard they hold Hillary. I'm still not convinced they will.

C_U_L8R

(45,019 posts)
2. Will the press be looking for substance or wisecracks?
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:17 AM
Sep 2016

This is a pretty good test to see what they're made of.
And expectations are pretty darn low. I hope we'll see
good reporting on the issues that matter.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
3. Gotta like HRC's prep team over Trump's.
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:19 AM
Sep 2016

Preparation generally isn't something the Trump team does at all, let alone well.

This is a debate between a corrupt, ignorant, and mendacious rich guy and a Yale-educated attorney.

I like her odds.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
5. Unless there is a major gaffe either way, it's mostly a draw
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:39 AM
Sep 2016

How much to prepare is more important when comes to protecting the confidence than actual substance. Confidence is something that can be learned but also something one can be born with (this facet also looks like a draw). The time factor is where he could lose the most, look for him to try to stall and drag things out in an effort to kill the clock (his substance is lacking).

on edit: this prediction was my own, but it looks like just copied the jest of the article (which really is not what happened).

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
6. Trump advanced when he shot the gap
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:47 AM
Sep 2016

in the Pukes' primaries. He succeeded because Jeb and the others just weren't ready for that line of attack. I'm sure the other GOP hopefuls felt that one of them would be the greater obstacle to the nomination, and not Trump.

I'll defer to clinicians here, but loudmouthed braggadocio doesn't suggest confidence to me, but its opposite. A case can be made that if Trump actually knew what he was talking about, he wouldn't need to manipulate hate demographics. HRC is a seasoned pro in the very circles and range of experience Trump has not traveled and knows nothing about.

I think she mops the stage with him.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
7. I hope you are correct, but my prediction is in the thinking of the news culture that generates it.
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:59 AM
Sep 2016

Yea, both candidates want their side to prevail, but the folks putting it on (who hold most of the cards) need a draw to make their employment relevant. Just think of all they have invested it

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
8. There is considerable investment in outcomes,
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 12:35 PM
Sep 2016

granted. And the debate format is flawed.

But under more intense focus (and likely a huge national audience), I think training, education, and experience will prevail over Adult Onset Disruptive Mood Dysregulation Disorder.

There is also an uncharted trend line in the media, who do not wish to be blamed for advancing Trump (even though that is exactly what they have been complicit with for over a year). In the closing days of the campaign, the media want to be seen as "above" the manipulations. They want to move toward a moderate atonement in case Trump-Pence wins. They don't want that particular sack of dogshit burning on their porch steps.

Not sure if Lester Holt will be the dragon slayer on the 26th, but NBC has been calling Trump out for his lies way more often and across program settings. I thought Chris Matthews was going to beat Rudy Giuliani up in the alleyway a couple weeks back.

We'll see.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
4. Since the M$M won't fact check candidates, here's what I think the result will be
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:27 AM
Sep 2016

It'll be exactly like watching the nightly news: he said, she said.

Guess who wins that one!

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