2016 Postmortem
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The last two years of the Obama administration (2015-6) may be the best of all, if the economy is strong and Democrats win the House in 2014. But Democrats will probably have to get more than 5% of the generic ballot preference because of GOP gerrymandering.
Here's what Sam Wang says:
http://election.princeton.edu/2012/11/09/the-new-house-with-less-democracy/
"Did I underestimate the tilt of the playing field? Based on how far the red data point is from the black prediction line, the structural unfairness may be higher as much as 5% of the popular vote. That is incredible. Clearly nonpartisan redistricting reform would be in our democracys best interests."
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So we'll need two things to take the House, a robust economy and a lot of hard work changing the national dialog to credit liberal economic policies. Let's begin to make it happen.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Usually wave elections go against the president's party. Even in 1934, the Democrats only gained 9 seats. In 1998, the Democrats gained 5 seats. In 2002, the Republicans gained 8. In every other midterm election since 1934, the president's party has lost seats.
That said, there is a first time for everything, and I am hoping that maybe we will break that precedent if people get tired of Republican obstructionism.
andym
(5,443 posts)but I do think a strong recovery would make it possible...
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I feel like wave elections usually happen when people are angry, because they want to vote the bums out and are willing to cross party lines.
In such a polarized climate, I don't think good economic trends will be enough to cause a wave. Pickups, sure, but not a wave. The only way I could see a wave happening is if a) there is a big scandal regarding House Republicans sufficient to cause people to see the whole party as corrupt and vote them out (like in 1974, and to a lesser extent, 2006), b) Republicans play their hand wrong on the fiscal cliff or do something else that creates a backlash, or 3) the Democrats are successful at painting them as the obstructionists standing in the way of a really popular initiative, like Bush did in 2002 with the Homeland Security bill.
andym
(5,443 posts)is the famous disclaimer on investments.
Hopefully it will hold here too. There's a first time for everything, and if the supply side economic policies of the GOP can be shown to be wrong by a strong economy resulting from ideologically opposed policies, they will lose power.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)We have a good chance of having huge majorities in the house and senate in 2014. Once we have control of the house and senate, Obama will be able to accomplish a lot (I'm hoping we get a permanent assault weapons and handgun ban installed by the end of Obama's term).
Once Obama's term is over, we need to get another liberal president in control so the right doesn't screw up all of Obama's hard work.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)However, I would like to see a public option added to The ACA, and the Federal Government to finlly end the misguided war on otherwise law abiding pot smokers.
Nerdette
(17 posts)Why can't guns be banned at the federal level? I read that Clinton did it in 1994...if only that bill had been permanent and more strict!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Political Reality.
Nice try.
Fail.
AllyCat
(16,188 posts)I see you have met some of our resident gun apologists. It's okay. There are many like you and I who would love to see this. I doubt it will happen, but we can dream, right?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)the audience is not entirely convinced by the 1st act of the play?
Thanks for understanding! I'm glad there's someone like me out there. I get a lot of harassment for my anti-gun views, but thanks for supporting me!
Cha
(297,274 posts)coming off this win..I know we can do it. I'm thinking the President's Team will be in on the Organizing of mobilizing Voters for this, too!
And, unfortunately, we'll have two freaking years of boner, cantor, ryan ,issa, bachmann, etc etc to highLight why We Must!
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)DFW
(54,397 posts)Rove thought he could win with a combination of disenfranchisement of Democratic voters plus a saturation of the airwaves.
Obama's team knew they couldn't match right wing money, so they had to make up for it on the ground. And they did.
The good news is that the structure is still intact.
The bad news is that now the Republicans know what went wrong.
The good news is that they probably won't learn from their mistakes.