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Related: About this forumTRUMP in IOWA: "Raise your hand if you're NOT a Christian conservative. I want to see that. There's
what was he going to do? Throw them out if the crowd gave him the trumbs up?
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TRUMP in IOWA: "Raise your hand if you're NOT a Christian conservative. I want to see that. There's a few of them. Should we keep them?"
3:57 PM - 28 Sep 2016
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@jameshohmann Beyond terrifying. Are his fans really this low minded?
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)If he's a Christian at all then I'm a Vermicious Knid.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)He's still not conservative according to the "anybody but Trump crowd", and going to a couple of black churches for a quick photo-op don't make you a Christian.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)izzybella
(236 posts)That's a great way to appeal to all Americans.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)non-believers. Atheists. Humanists. Agnostics.
izzybella
(236 posts)What he plans to do with all of them???
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,734 posts)That's just...
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)That makes this doubly as strange.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)Mark my words.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)exboyfil
(17,863 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)Trumps red hats and emphasis on decay, his calls to, "Get them out of hear", Mirror Pink's crossed hammers and NF skinheads
No need to bring up Hitler. Just cite the Wall and Roger Waters
The similarity is uncanny
LeftRant
(524 posts)Eugene
(61,900 posts)Even in jest, this is beyond the pale.
...and he thinks he can control his mob.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)has set already, this is lower still.
susanna
(5,231 posts)Look how well that worked out.
Scary is right.
on edit: spelling in title
tanyev
(42,568 posts)and particicution scenes in The Handmaid's Tale.
phallon
(260 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)rurallib
(62,423 posts)Catholic actually. I think my source for this was the catholic schools I went to, but can't really say.
Only recently have I heard the stories that Hitler was supposedly an atheist.
So I googled. One column I have come to trust is The Straight Dope. Their conclusion - there was probably plenty of Hitler quotes to support either position. At a minimum Hitler surely manipulated Christians.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1699/was-hitler-a-christian
Not a shot at you. Your post simply spurred me to look this up and try to find some authoritative discussion on it.
BTW - a late welcome to DU
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)a newspaper website.
http://www.dfw.com/2016/09/28/1141523/the-latest-clinton-camp-says-trump.html
The Republican presidential nominee asked those attending a Wednesday afternoon rally in Council Bluffs to raise their hands "if you're not a Christian conservative."
He noticed "a couple people" raising their hands.
He asked the crowd, "Should we keep them in the room?" He answered himself, "Yes, I think so."
I am hoping we have video.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)coaxing his supporters to congratulate themselves for being "conservative Christians," and invoking a kind of mob psychology, playing to the majority against the exception.
I distrust that kind of manipulation. "Should we let 'em stay? Yeah, we should let 'em stay." If there is no reason for them not to stay, what was gained in calling them out in the first place?
Citizens have the freedom of choice of a religious tradition if they want one, as well as the choice to disassociate from any religious tradition entirely. There's a complex spectrum involved in that array of choices.
Trump is too authoritarian to allow for any spectrum. He asked for a show of hands on what he thinks is a binary issue.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Christians are conservatives and all conservatives are christian? If he does, he fails at logic.
LeftRant
(524 posts)And "eats his little cracker and has his wine to make himself feel better about things, then moves on."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/
So phony!
Mamajami
(257 posts)he is on tape and other records as being for everything they are against. He can try to flip-flop but the videos will make it difficult. He is even on video praising Hillary.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)organizations to ask the daughters of the "conservative Christians" in Trump's audience what they think of their parents' support for a man who calls women "pigs."
I would think in Iowa that question would have special resonance, as it is a leading producer of pork, and there is a very significant percentage of voters who identify as fundamentalist Christians of various stripes:
"Your parents are here at this rally. Evidently they intend to support Mr. Trump in November. In the past Mr. Trump has called women misogynist names, berating them with words like 'pigs' and 'dogs,' etc. Does this not make you uncomfortable? If you decide to marry and have kids, would you permit your sons to call women derogatory names?"
Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)They'd vote for Hannibal Lecter as long as he promised to ban abortion and gay marriage
Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)Trump 3:14
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)among his supporters many evangelical Christians, who are supposed to have read the texts on which their faith is based.
Either they haven't read them very carefully, or read them and didn't understand them. Trump's message alone should suggest to them a contradiction in their personal beliefs.
The evangelical community has been shamefully hypocritical in its support for Donald Trump. The people who distrust fundamentalist Christian collusion with right wing politicians have yet another election cycle as justification for that distrust.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)rumdude
(448 posts)He knows he's going to lose.