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applegrove

(118,683 posts)
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:44 PM Sep 2016

Trump Stumbles Into Another Ill-Advised Fight

https://politicalwire.com/2016/09/28/trump-stumbles-another-ill-advised-fight/

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Rick Klein: “Among the ways Donald Trump is breaking with conventional politics? He’s not even really pretending that he won the debate. He is insisting that he won, of course – but he’s also complaining about the moderator, the questions, and even the microphone he used at Hofstra. (As his opponent pointed out, winners don’t complain about the equipment.) And in the debate’s aftermath, he is also adding fuel to a two-decade-old feud with a former Miss Universe whom he attacked for gaining weight. This is the Trump that the Trump campaign had been trying to disappear – and the Trump that Hillary Clinton’s campaign insists is the only true Trump to exist.”

“That’s what’s behind Clinton’s masterful strategy from Monday night: She set traps for Trump to fall into – or, rather, she pressed a whole bunch of buttons knowing that something would set him off. Clinton got the result she wanted. Trump’s reaction, meanwhile, took would could have been a partial victory or a split decision and turned it into a solid loss. The Clinton camp got a debate win, and then a parting gift.”

First Read: “Trump’s ill-advised feud with Machado fits into a pattern we’ve noticed throughout the campaign: When Trump is in a bad period like this, he makes it worse for himself by refusing to back down. Particularly in the face of poor reviews (remember the Khan fight after his convention message was panned by pundits?), Trump has a tendency to spiral downward for a few days until he’s convinced to stop lashing out or punching down. Our question is: how long does bad stretch for Trump last?”

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Trump Stumbles Into Another Ill-Advised Fight (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2016 OP
Trump is a true piece of shit alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #1
Trump considers himself to be correct in saltpoint Sep 2016 #2
Don't punch down exboyfil Sep 2016 #3
"..she pressed a whole bunch of buttons...Clinton got the results she wanted". misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #4
Oh, wow! Control-Z Sep 2016 #7
All fine and well, but it wasn't a fucking "split decision" Cosmocat Sep 2016 #5
My My, if Trump was hit in four years with the disparaging remarks made about President Obama Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #6

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
2. Trump considers himself to be correct in
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:50 PM
Sep 2016

the present and to have been correct at all times in the past.

It must be difficult for his campaign advisors to approach him about the complexity of variables comprising the electorate, because Trump is right and therefore anything they might propose to him -- especially if nuanced considerations are required -- is a pointless annoyance.

And also because most of his advisors and surrogates are morally compromised and/or lying hacks.

Doesn't seem to be a particularly effective profile for a winning political campaign.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
3. Don't punch down
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:57 PM
Sep 2016

Here is a National Review article

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438585/donald-trump-khizr-khan-trump-needs-learn-take-criticism


At some point even folks at the National Review and Weekly Standard have to conclude that Trump absolutely does not have the temperament (let alone the skill set) to be president.

If he has not learned to this point, will he ever?

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
4. "..she pressed a whole bunch of buttons...Clinton got the results she wanted".
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:01 PM
Sep 2016

Which is evident in this post-debate photo
She's such a smartypants!

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
7. Oh, wow!
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:26 PM
Sep 2016

Looks like Hillary enjoyed the debate. And boy was she up to no good. She looks downright devious in that pic. I had no idea she had it in her. Makes me very happy!

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
5. All fine and well, but it wasn't a fucking "split decision"
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:04 PM
Sep 2016

Even wo baiting the blathering twit she crushed him on points ...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. My My, if Trump was hit in four years with the disparaging remarks made about President Obama
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 08:20 PM
Sep 2016

Trump would be out every day complaining, part of being president is hearing remarks made against them, President Obama has had more than anyone should ever have to contend but Trump does not have the stamina to be president.

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