2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKaine is doing a masterful job
Balancing being both substantive and being an attack dog. This is a clinic.
Pence is performing well, but he has so much less material to work with. So Kaine is winning big.
underpants
(182,954 posts)Also he is stopping Pence from getting a roll
BumRushDaShow
(129,683 posts)underpants
(182,954 posts)In focus groups (DNC or news operations) and they can poll on them.
Just a thought.
BumRushDaShow
(129,683 posts)Purrfessor
(1,188 posts)Did Donald Trump vet you to serve as his running mate by asking to see your Financial Disclosure Form or your Federal tax returns? And if he asked for your Federal tax returns why do you now tell the American people they are only entitled to see Donald Trump's Financial Disclosure Form?
blue cat
(2,415 posts)And taking names!
Cakes488
(874 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)pay for the wall and he didn't even have the guts to raise the issue when he met with the Mexican President. He denied the issues was raised and the Mexican President stated publicly that he told Trump that Mexico would not pay for a wall. Goes to Trump's claim to be a great negotiator.
I like that Kaine has settled down and is staying on message.
herding cats
(19,569 posts)He kicked Pence's butt and left him speechless by using Trumps own words against him.
It was classic.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Helps that he has so much more material to work with, but he is really good.
jcgoldie
(11,656 posts)I'm impressed. People whining about his interruptions are missing the substance. I like that he's being aggressive.
ImaPolitico
(150 posts)Chris Matthews/MSNBC, says Pence came out the winner! Of course Chris M said he would.
"The future leader of the R party
He's their guy tonight.
What! What is Matthews drinking?
Cosmocat
(14,576 posts)On the apologies.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Pence is being calm and collected.
Don't think this is a slam dunk for Kaine.
We'll see the outcome at the end.
Pence is terrifyingly believable. Shit!
By the way - love the moderator.
Not amused.
Cakes488
(874 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)Doesn't that count?
elmac
(4,642 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)calimary
(81,532 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)The visual is different.
We'll see in the morning.
Don't think this is going as well as I had hoped.
Claiming Pence the winner. But of course we new that.
Steve Schmidt said Kaine was very rude constantly interrupting.
Chris Matthews/MSNBC claims PENCE the winner! Don't believe it al all!
Pathwalker
(6,600 posts)spitting nails. NOT calm OR collected.
And Kaine has missed several opportunities. When Pence went after Hillary for allowing ISIS to proliferate, why didn't Kaine respond by asking Pence who he thinks CREATED ISIS?
mdbl
(4,976 posts)is the misinformed repugs that already support him.
Can't believe people on this board are praising pence.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)RonniePudding
(889 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)RonniePudding
(889 posts)PatSeg
(47,653 posts)it could be in comparison to Donald Trump. He is so much more articulate than anyone from that campaign. Meanwhile, Kaine is doing an extraordinary job. I am really impressed with him.
ImaPolitico
(150 posts)Chris Matthews claims PENCE the winner!
How awful.
mcar
(42,413 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)it was in the Comcast script
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)
and see little starbursts?
BumRushDaShow
(129,683 posts)and is himself appearing very Presidential.
Pence is sounding like a slimy televangelist.
calimary
(81,532 posts)Oh man, look at those eyebrows - they tilt up toward each other.
"When a guy running for President will NOT support the troops..." LOVE IT!
SunSeeker
(51,746 posts)Pence only denies that Trump said what he said.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Pence denies it or laughs.
Johnny2X2X
(19,208 posts)Kaine crushed him in Putin. That was a big win for Kaine.
radius777
(3,635 posts)pence looks constipated, folding hands and praying for help.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)I'm thinking an enema might be in order...
Saviolo
(3,283 posts)And he's smoother about it. I bet that most people believe the bullshit he's peddling, because he's so confident in his lie.
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,372 posts)Pence lives in an alternate reality
Kaine was very wise to tie him down to facts
Gothmog
(145,687 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)watched bits and pieces of the post debate (MSNBC)and of course it was Kaine that was interrupting constantly then Rachel stepped in and said but here Pence kept nodding his head and saying no,no then she was silence by Brian Williams and the Repub Female strategist so the Right Wing prop continues even as the dumb ass Donald and Mike continue their attempted smoke screen on America.
-Steph-
(409 posts)Listening to Mike Pence, you wouldn't even know that Donald Trump is his running mate. He was inventing things the entire debate about Donald Trump. Mike Pence gave Donald Trump stances that he's never had, and denied nearly every stance that Trump does have.
To me, the bottom line is that Mike Pence couldn't stand behind his running mate. Instead he invented a brand new running mate, by creating things out of thin air when asked to defend or explain Trumps positions, or things he's said/done.
SunSeeker
(51,746 posts)ffr
(22,674 posts)Pence almost seemed silent and agreeing with him, because he couldn't think beyond his own rehearsed script.
Thank you Tim Kaine! Just beautifully done.