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Kaine is doing a masterful job (Original Post) woolldog Oct 2016 OP
I think Tim is baiting Trump to tweet underpants Oct 2016 #1
Interesting thought! BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #5
2nd thought. Tim is introducing cold hard facts that can be tested for the next Pres. debate underpants Oct 2016 #34
He has been well prepared BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #36
On the issue of Tax returns vs. Financial Disclosure Forms I would have asked Pence these questions Purrfessor Oct 2016 #33
He is kicking ass blue cat Oct 2016 #2
I'll say that Kaine is also getting a few more "laughs" and people like that Cakes488 Oct 2016 #3
Kaine needs to bring up Trump saying that he will make Mexico avebury Oct 2016 #4
Kaine did fine on the immigration issue. herding cats Oct 2016 #8
Yes he is! MoonRiver Oct 2016 #6
I agree jcgoldie Oct 2016 #7
Just like a commenter said here on this site…. ImaPolitico Oct 2016 #38
He is winning on points - best body blow Cosmocat Oct 2016 #9
Sorry. I think Kaine is doing well but dhol82 Oct 2016 #10
All Pence is is a good politician... Cakes488 Oct 2016 #11
Well, yeah dhol82 Oct 2016 #12
meaning he can bullshit with a straight face. nt elmac Oct 2016 #23
disagree, Pence looks sleepy like a koolaid drinking fundie. /nt radius777 Oct 2016 #14
He just sounds sanctimonious as hell. calimary Oct 2016 #20
Totally agree dhol82 Oct 2016 #24
MSNB is… ImaPolitico Oct 2016 #43
Damn… ImaPolitico Oct 2016 #39
Watching it muted - Pence looks angry as hell, Pathwalker Oct 2016 #19
I agree Metro135 Oct 2016 #25
D'uh! dhol82 Oct 2016 #27
the only people that will believe what Pence says mdbl Oct 2016 #37
Yes mcar Oct 2016 #13
I can't either. MoonRiver Oct 2016 #16
Most likely it's their first rodeo RonniePudding Oct 2016 #17
I guess I am more suspicious. MoonRiver Oct 2016 #21
Well there's that too. I know what you mean. RonniePudding Oct 2016 #26
+1 C Moon Oct 2016 #46
In all fairness, PatSeg Oct 2016 #18
Well, guess what! ImaPolitico Oct 2016 #40
And this surprises you? mcar Oct 2016 #41
Because that is what Tweety was suppose to say, INdemo Oct 2016 #48
Did he get the tingles up his leg… regnaD kciN Oct 2016 #54
Kaine has an excellent grasp of the issues BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #15
BOOM! The Russian connection! calimary Oct 2016 #22
Meh. LS_Editor Oct 2016 #28
Yup, love how he keeps pointing out Pence can't defend anything Trump said. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #29
+ 1 Kathy M Oct 2016 #52
Whenever Kaine quotes Trump mainstreetonce Oct 2016 #30
Putin Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #31
pow! kaine: "if you can't tell between dictatorship and leadership" radius777 Oct 2016 #32
Pence always looks constipated DemonGoddess Oct 2016 #56
Pence lies as confidently and easily as Trump Saviolo Oct 2016 #35
Kicking Penney poos butt Ligyron Oct 2016 #42
Pence was just gaslighting bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #44
Kaine forced Pence to throw trump under the bus Gothmog Oct 2016 #45
Yep! Iliyah Oct 2016 #51
But then of course Pence won... INdemo Oct 2016 #47
On substance, which is what matters most.. Kaine wins hands down. -Steph- Oct 2016 #49
^^^THIS^^^ SunSeeker Oct 2016 #50
Yes ^ Kathy M Oct 2016 #53
Masterclass debate work by Kaine. ffr Oct 2016 #55

underpants

(182,954 posts)
34. 2nd thought. Tim is introducing cold hard facts that can be tested for the next Pres. debate
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:23 PM
Oct 2016

In focus groups (DNC or news operations) and they can poll on them.

Just a thought.

Purrfessor

(1,188 posts)
33. On the issue of Tax returns vs. Financial Disclosure Forms I would have asked Pence these questions
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:21 PM
Oct 2016

Did Donald Trump vet you to serve as his running mate by asking to see your Financial Disclosure Form or your Federal tax returns? And if he asked for your Federal tax returns why do you now tell the American people they are only entitled to see Donald Trump's Financial Disclosure Form?

avebury

(10,952 posts)
4. Kaine needs to bring up Trump saying that he will make Mexico
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:46 PM
Oct 2016

pay for the wall and he didn't even have the guts to raise the issue when he met with the Mexican President. He denied the issues was raised and the Mexican President stated publicly that he told Trump that Mexico would not pay for a wall. Goes to Trump's claim to be a great negotiator.

I like that Kaine has settled down and is staying on message.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
8. Kaine did fine on the immigration issue.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:48 PM
Oct 2016

He kicked Pence's butt and left him speechless by using Trumps own words against him.

It was classic.

jcgoldie

(11,656 posts)
7. I agree
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:48 PM
Oct 2016

I'm impressed. People whining about his interruptions are missing the substance. I like that he's being aggressive.

ImaPolitico

(150 posts)
38. Just like a commenter said here on this site….
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:43 PM
Oct 2016

Chris Matthews/MSNBC, says Pence came out the winner! Of course Chris M said he would.

"The future leader of the R party… He's their guy tonight.


What! What is Matthews drinking?

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
10. Sorry. I think Kaine is doing well but
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:49 PM
Oct 2016

Pence is being calm and collected.
Don't think this is a slam dunk for Kaine.
We'll see the outcome at the end.
Pence is terrifyingly believable. Shit!
By the way - love the moderator.
Not amused.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
24. Totally agree
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:10 PM
Oct 2016

The visual is different.
We'll see in the morning.
Don't think this is going as well as I had hoped.

ImaPolitico

(150 posts)
43. MSNB is…
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:47 PM
Oct 2016

Claiming Pence the winner. But of course we new that.

Steve Schmidt said Kaine was very rude constantly interrupting.

Metro135

(359 posts)
25. I agree
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:11 PM
Oct 2016

And Kaine has missed several opportunities. When Pence went after Hillary for allowing ISIS to proliferate, why didn't Kaine respond by asking Pence who he thinks CREATED ISIS?

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
37. the only people that will believe what Pence says
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM
Oct 2016

is the misinformed repugs that already support him.

PatSeg

(47,653 posts)
18. In all fairness,
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:03 PM
Oct 2016

it could be in comparison to Donald Trump. He is so much more articulate than anyone from that campaign. Meanwhile, Kaine is doing an extraordinary job. I am really impressed with him.

BumRushDaShow

(129,683 posts)
15. Kaine has an excellent grasp of the issues
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:57 PM
Oct 2016

and is himself appearing very Presidential.

Pence is sounding like a slimy televangelist.

calimary

(81,532 posts)
22. BOOM! The Russian connection!
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:06 PM
Oct 2016

Oh man, look at those eyebrows - they tilt up toward each other.

"When a guy running for President will NOT support the troops..." LOVE IT!

SunSeeker

(51,746 posts)
29. Yup, love how he keeps pointing out Pence can't defend anything Trump said.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:16 PM
Oct 2016

Pence only denies that Trump said what he said.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
32. pow! kaine: "if you can't tell between dictatorship and leadership"
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:18 PM
Oct 2016

pence looks constipated, folding hands and praying for help.

Saviolo

(3,283 posts)
35. Pence lies as confidently and easily as Trump
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:24 PM
Oct 2016

And he's smoother about it. I bet that most people believe the bullshit he's peddling, because he's so confident in his lie.

bucolic_frolic

(43,372 posts)
44. Pence was just gaslighting
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:01 PM
Oct 2016

Pence lives in an alternate reality

Kaine was very wise to tie him down to facts

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
47. But then of course Pence won...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:32 PM
Oct 2016

watched bits and pieces of the post debate (MSNBC)and of course it was Kaine that was interrupting constantly then Rachel stepped in and said but here Pence kept nodding his head and saying no,no then she was silence by Brian Williams and the Repub Female strategist so the Right Wing prop continues even as the dumb ass Donald and Mike continue their attempted smoke screen on America.

-Steph-

(409 posts)
49. On substance, which is what matters most.. Kaine wins hands down.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:40 PM
Oct 2016

Listening to Mike Pence, you wouldn't even know that Donald Trump is his running mate. He was inventing things the entire debate about Donald Trump. Mike Pence gave Donald Trump stances that he's never had, and denied nearly every stance that Trump does have.

To me, the bottom line is that Mike Pence couldn't stand behind his running mate. Instead he invented a brand new running mate, by creating things out of thin air when asked to defend or explain Trumps positions, or things he's said/done.

ffr

(22,674 posts)
55. Masterclass debate work by Kaine.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 02:06 AM
Oct 2016

Pence almost seemed silent and agreeing with him, because he couldn't think beyond his own rehearsed script.

Thank you Tim Kaine! Just beautifully done.

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