2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCNN Kaine clear winner according to focus group
and now the talking heads trying to poo poo those results.
That's a different group.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)from my bygone days - it has been a while since I watched these clips..Arte Johnson came to mind when I look at pence...
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Old+Man+On+Laugh+in+Arte+Johnson+As&&view=detail&mid=0269EE4DC199DE2C10FF0269EE4DC199DE2C10FF&FORM=VRDGAR
RandySF
(59,439 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)AmericanActivist
(1,019 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Lol. People are too critical of our guy.
Gore1FL
(21,158 posts)He did what he needed to do, but it's hard to call him a victor.
vadermike
(1,417 posts)So it's a split verdict with Luntz Lol GOP could t even get a clear win Steve Schmidt said pence lies are gonna hurt him MSNBC Ok better than I thought
riversedge
(70,352 posts)Thom Hartmann @Thom_Hartmann 5m5 minutes ago
Kaine hung Trump around Pence's neck & fought for his ticket. Pence was running for Prez 2020.
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Millennials4Hillary @StillWithHer 5m5 minutes ago
CNN focus group strongly felt Tim Kaine was the winner! #VPDebate
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Jesse Lehrich @JesseLehrich 5m5 minutes ago
another thing that will prove damaging Pence flatly denied that both he & Trump said things they blatantly said. on video.
#VPDebate
arthritisR_US
(7,300 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,025 posts)We can see beyond slick presentation and actually listen to real issues.
On the issues, we can see and understand Trump's strongman
approach to imprison women, mexicans, muslims and Hillary
(and many others they don't agree with). We can also know
when Pence lies to our faces (very smoothly) that he or Trump
didn't say things they both clearly said.
We can also see that Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine are good, solid,
experienced people who will be magnificent leaders.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Kaine more human and likeable - Pence a creepy creepy drone.
yankeepants
(1,979 posts)C Moon
(12,223 posts)Republicans like creepy, though.
triron
(22,026 posts)two more for trump/pence. Rest undecided still. Some good news there it seems.
ffr
(22,674 posts)How many times did Pence have to fall back on some rehearsed line and stare around the room with that goofy face of his?
Kaine just blew his doors off.
Pence rehearsed lines served red meat to his base, but nowhere did his message appeal to the center or the left. He was off topic over and over, having to be reminded to answer the question.
HRC-Kaine are 2 - 0.
See 41:55s
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)In debate circles, that's known as flushing yourself. In this case, flushing your boss down the toilet.
"He's not a polished politician like you and Hiillary Clinton and, you know, so his words don't always come out exactly the way he means them." At 2:20:14 in the full live stream.
Just after that comes the "Mexican thing" as Pence is getting rather worn down before the closer.
Trump as pinata is pure genius. You know you want to smack some sense into the guy .... you just want to hit him over and over again with a stick anyway ...
even Pence got in a good whack .....