2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTight Race for President in Ohio
So Much for the Change election the MSM is pushing
This says a lot. There is no love lose between OHIO STATE VS UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN
Great article, especially if your a numbers cruncher like me. (Tons of data, worth the read)
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/10/tight-race-for-president-in-ohio.html
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,857 posts)I think many Ohioans, even the most ardent tOSU fans, fundamentally respect UM. Some of the "hatred" is blown out of proportion for the sake of the rivalry. Beating them 11 out of the last 12 times makes it harder to be bitter too. Lol.
AmericanMan1958
(520 posts)See you November 26th, but we are at your house...
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,857 posts)I don't take anything for granted after the "upsets" in the 90's!
I haven't heard of the Buckeyes band ever being pelted by urine-filled balloons up there like at Happy Valley, so I'll give UM credit for comparative civility.
Ugh...
AmericanMan1958
(520 posts)That means we beat MSU, after last years final second lost we need so revenge
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,857 posts)It wasn't so much about UM losing, but more about it being RIDICULOUS!
The Buckeyes would have won the B1G East if not for the unbelievable punt disaster, so that's what I get for laughing about it!
We had a bad game against MSU last season too. I can still easily picture their kicker doing a "windmill" celebration at the end.
Time for Sparty to be Sparty again, I say!
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)without the help of the refs...
Of course, Sparty has quite a history of upsetting both teams (1972, 1974, 1998, 2013 B10CCG, 2015 against the Bucks).
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,857 posts)I think the Buckeyes might have been the best team in the country that year. Oh, well.
"Sparty being Sparty" is something Buckeyes fans used to say in years past when that team seemed to have a knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)If the polls are close, especially if they are a slight lean for clinton, her ground game will push her over the top easily.
The debate performance, plus the tax revelation and maybe to a lesser extent, the recent news that Trump doesn't use U.S. building supplies have sunk him in the rustbelt.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)The pundits can minimize this as much as they want, but electing the first woman President will be a HUGE change. No woman ever has been enough of the "establishment" to be elected President, or even to be the nominee of a major party.
And here she is, running against a billionaire, and the media pretends he's the outsider.
AmericanMan1958
(520 posts)That is why the GOP is so afraid of her.