2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen Tim "lost" the debate, he was actually taking one for the team.
He didn't care if he looked like an annoying terrier. The Clinton campaign knew far more people would see post-debate coverage and ads than would see the debate itself.
So they just wanted to get Trump's deplorable comments on record and force Pence to either own them or deny them.
http://qz.com/803659/election-2016-in-retrospect-tim-kaines-debate-was-a-masterful-lesson-in-campaign-strategy/
In retrospect, Tim Kaines debate was a masterful lesson in campaign strategy
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Kaine didnt care that he looked like an attack dog instead of the excited puppy he normally is; people are voting for Clinton and Trump, not Kaine or Pence. In two days, people will forget his tone and tenor, but you know what they will remember? Pence pretending the past year never happened, Pence either being woefully uninformed about his own ticket or intentionally lying on national television. But Pence can deny reality all he wants; too many people have heard Trump say exactly what Pence refused to acknowledge.
Rather, the Clinton campaign simply wanted Kaine to list every awful thing Trump has said or done for the record and force Pence to address them, which can later be rebroadcast to a far bigger audience. Thats what people will remember. Its why Kaine kept returning to Trumps statements, no matter the topic, and kept forcing Pence to defend the indefensible. While the strategy may have seemed ineffective, if not offensive, during the actual debate, it is now clear it was done solely for ads such as this one, which the campaign had ready to go within hours of the debate:
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To get these quotes, all Kaine had to do was memorize the litany of Trumps offensive statements. He had to memorize the exact quotes in case Pence wanted to attack him for misquoting Trump, instead of just denying they ever happened as he did. Pay attention to Kaines specific recitation of the quotes and canned lines. They make the sparring cleaner for the tape. This shouldnt be a surprise; Kaine was a trial lawyer for eighteen years, and he has debated at the local, state, and federal level numerous times. He has experience setting people up like this in deposition, getting the record clean and exactly how he wants it so sections can be quoted in briefs or at trial, or, in this case, in an ad. And Pence walked right into it. Did we really believe Kaine, with all this experience and the hyper-managed Clinton campaign, would go in guns blazing unless it was part of some grand scheme? Mark it down, youll see this ad, and others like it, from now until election day.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)The Clinton campaign knew about this tape and that it would be released now. Kaine put focus on this.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Boojah!