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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 01:19 AM Oct 2016

Can someone tell me why Hillary Clinton has a likability problem?

To me, she comes across as angelic and like the coolest mom in the whole world. The decency, warmth and intelligence just radiate off her. It's all just e-mails right?

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Can someone tell me why Hillary Clinton has a likability problem? (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Oct 2016 OP
Idk? bmstee01 Oct 2016 #1
55-44 Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #2
Because she is an ambitious, intellectual, madaboutharry Oct 2016 #3
Some people Third Doctor Oct 2016 #4
Wrong junk in her pants jcgoldie Oct 2016 #5
It's bullshit Bigredhunk Oct 2016 #6
Bingo. The rw noise machine has spent years slinging mud at Hillary. Arkansas Granny Oct 2016 #35
I didn't "hate on" Laura Bush. As far as First Ladies I thought GWC58 Oct 2016 #37
They have been going after her since 92 and before. rusty quoin Oct 2016 #7
you and bigredhunk are correct. check this: Gabi Hayes Oct 2016 #10
II love Hillary fun n serious Oct 2016 #9
there has been a VRWC ever since the Powell memo. it's that simple Gabi Hayes Oct 2016 #11
No. fun n serious Oct 2016 #19
yes rbrnmw Oct 2016 #23
Warm, genuine, smart. That's Hillary. C_U_L8R Oct 2016 #12
Because the media has been feeding that bullshit to the public for years. Wonder why she appears on still_one Oct 2016 #13
Because some people see "Mom." Ellen Forradalom Oct 2016 #15
Actually, Meg is not "literally no one's favorite." She was mine. pnwmom Oct 2016 #26
Interesting in the ANIME BURST ANGEL yuiyoshida Oct 2016 #27
The same reason Planned Parenthood has a bad rap. Snake Plissken Oct 2016 #16
She seemed bland to me at first... blue cat Oct 2016 #17
Thats a great video. Thank you! fun n serious Oct 2016 #20
It's not her. A quarter century of brainwashing will do that. unblock Oct 2016 #18
Because the media keeps saying that she has NastyRiffraff Oct 2016 #21
Bingo! eom BlueMTexpat Oct 2016 #33
Her approval rating has fluctuated over her career, with a high point of about 67% ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #22
Because she's smart, ambitious, and successful . For sexists of both genders, pnwmom Oct 2016 #24
So true. I've heard people call her the 'b' word lovemydog Oct 2016 #29
Won't it be wonderful when all this is over? pnwmom Oct 2016 #32
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2016 #38
Right wing bullshit that ignorant people lovemydog Oct 2016 #25
She's also a fantastic campaigner NewsCenter28 Oct 2016 #28
as a 54 year old veteran white man in Utah, Utah_liberal Oct 2016 #30
i do know one guy who likes trump and Hates Hillary Utah_liberal Oct 2016 #31
That's the impression I got from her the couple of times we've met DFW Oct 2016 #34
concerted effort by conservatives for last 4 years...using foxnews as their propaganda outlet beachbum bob Oct 2016 #36
She has actually talked about this oberliner Oct 2016 #40
Can you tell me why posted this here? Demsrule86 Oct 2016 #41
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Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
2. 55-44
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 01:21 AM
Oct 2016

CNN hit showed her favorability rating at 55-44 positive. I agree, she appears very likable.

The thing with Hillary that the Cons fear the most is that they know she's going to be an outstanding president who gets amazing things done.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
3. Because she is an ambitious, intellectual,
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 01:23 AM
Oct 2016

and powerful woman and that just cannot be allowed.

For Hillary:

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
4. Some people
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 01:24 AM
Oct 2016

fear a accomplished intelligent woman. What's crazy is that they are willing to vote for a unqualified nut instead.

Bigredhunk

(1,350 posts)
6. It's bullshit
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 01:28 AM
Oct 2016

It's been created. It started when she was first lady. She tried to get something big done with healthcare. The first lady is to be seen, not heard. Think Laura Bush tackling literacy. Hillary started getting hated on for that and they (reich wing) kept spinning it bigger and bigger by creating hearings and bullshit to bring her down. Michelle Obama has also gotten a lot of hatred. She's trying to, gasp, improve nutrition in schools. How awful!!

It also doesn't help that they have D's behind their name. reich wingers hate all things Democratic. Doesn't matter how much good these remarkable women do (or try to do). They'll be hated regardless. How many of us hated on Laura Bush? It's so stupid.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
37. I didn't "hate on" Laura Bush. As far as First Ladies I thought
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:06 AM
Oct 2016

she was very good. One problem with her was/is she's married to Dumya.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
7. They have been going after her since 92 and before.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 01:30 AM
Oct 2016

She said she isn't like Tammy Wynette stand by your man...and does her own work, way back then, and the hate never stopped.

Rush and his ilk has brainwashed several generations of haters.

She's done nothing to deserve the hate, but it's been there a long time. I think she is the best candidate and the worst. The best for her abilities, and the worst for how stupid has taken over.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
11. there has been a VRWC ever since the Powell memo. it's that simple
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 01:35 AM
Oct 2016

gigantic and massively funded by rich, fascist maniacs like the Koch Brothers, the Bradleys, the Olins, the de Vos family, the Kohlers....the list is almost endless

ever heard of the CNP?

Ellen Forradalom

(16,160 posts)
15. Because some people see "Mom."
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 01:41 AM
Oct 2016

With Mom, you have to try harder and be better because she's way ahead of your bullshit and isn't putting up with it. This pisses some people off no end.

Hillary also has a do-gooder aspect which also pisses some people off enormously.

Your question reminded me of article, "No One Likes Meg", about the book "Little Women"
http://avidly.lareviewofbooks.org/2016/07/18/no-one-likes-meg/

Literally no one’s favorite “little woman” is Meg. This is because Meg is the most womanly of the little women, and no one actually likes women. Meg is mom jeans. Meg is minivans. Meg is Hillary Clinton.

Put differently, Meg is the little woman who was most responsible for following the rules, and also the most rewarded by the rules, and so she followed all the rules, and she came to embody the rules, which is what “womanly” women do, and so, when people think of Meg (or Hillary), they just think, “ugh, rules.”

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
26. Actually, Meg is not "literally no one's favorite." She was mine.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:52 AM
Oct 2016

I, like Meg, was an oldest child and a girl. Probably millions of oldest girls had a fondness for Meg, while wondering why Jo got all the attention.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
27. Interesting in the ANIME BURST ANGEL
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:03 AM
Oct 2016

MEG AND JO were the main stars, and quite attracted to each other..



Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
16. The same reason Planned Parenthood has a bad rap.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 01:41 AM
Oct 2016

Congress and lobbyists spend hundreds of millions of dollars to brainwash people into believing it.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
21. Because the media keeps saying that she has
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:26 AM
Oct 2016

It's nothing new for them. When they compare Trump and Clinton, they ALWAYS point out that they are the "two least-liked candidates" in the history of the U.S. world.

Repeat something often enough, even if untrue, people will begin to believe it.

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
22. Her approval rating has fluctuated over her career, with a high point of about 67%
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:32 AM
Oct 2016

Here's a link to an article

THE FALSE EQUIVALENCE OF CLINTON AND TRUMP’S NEGATIVES
http://www.newsweek.com/false-equivalence-clinton-trump-negatives-472818

and another one

Here’s Why Headlines Stating Hillary Clinton Is As Unpopular as Trump Are Bogus
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/31/headlines-showing-hillary-unpopular-trump-bogus.html

She hit high points (1) as First Lady during the scandal when she stood by Bill who had "done her wrong", and again (2) when she was Secretary of State.

Hillary does not have an innate likability problem, she's just at a low point now.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
24. Because she's smart, ambitious, and successful . For sexists of both genders,
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:50 AM
Oct 2016

women can't have those qualities AND be likable.

She's been criticized ever since she arrived in the Arkansas Governor's office, daring to use her MAIDEN NAME. She finally gave up and adopted the name Clinton.

Then she got to the White House and she dared to think she could have a real job there, that used her law degree. She said she didn't want to just bake cookies. And they gave her hell for that.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
29. So true. I've heard people call her the 'b' word
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:15 AM
Oct 2016

since those days when she was working to improve health care for families.

Sexism from both genders.

Thank goodness there is less of that now than there was a long time ago. Or I should say it's less acceptable to say it in public.

Another great observation by you pnwmom.

I hope you enjoy a great week.

Hopefully we won't have to listen to this horseshit from Donald much more.

And like I always did for President Obama I will stand up for a President Clinton too.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
25. Right wing bullshit that ignorant people
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:52 AM
Oct 2016

among the right and some on the self-described left eat up like junk food.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
28. She's also a fantastic campaigner
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:06 AM
Oct 2016

I remember being blown away by the effectiveness of her listening tour back in 1999 with Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

Utah_liberal

(101 posts)
30. as a 54 year old veteran white man in Utah,
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:16 AM
Oct 2016

You can just imagine the things I hear about Hillary from the men I'm most near. I suppose it's the constant noise from the right wing media, and of course there are lots of men my age that just don't like a strong woman. They will never admit their insecurities.

Utah_liberal

(101 posts)
31. i do know one guy who likes trump and Hates Hillary
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:34 AM
Oct 2016

but still intends to vote for Hillary because he's Union, and realizes Republicans are so Damaging to Unions. He calls it " Voting your paycheck". So fortunately, Hillary will get a vote from this NRA member over a single issue he cares about more than his guns. In Utah though, it's unlikely any ones vote is going to have an impact on the electoral vote in this deep red state.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
34. That's the impression I got from her the couple of times we've met
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:37 AM
Oct 2016

My daughters liked her, too:
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I think her "likability problem," like so much else thrown against her by the media and right wing bloggers, is made up for and by people whose political agenda does not fit with hers.

On the other hand, however, Trump would probably be in correct in assuming he would not be welcome at future White House Correspondents' Dinners.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
36. concerted effort by conservatives for last 4 years...using foxnews as their propaganda outlet
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 05:30 AM
Oct 2016

repeating the same crap over and over does have an effect

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. She has actually talked about this
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:48 AM
Oct 2016

She is just not as gifted a natural politician as her husband or Obama. She is better in more intimate settings.

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