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obamanut2012

(26,079 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:48 PM Nov 2012

My mother has a good theory about McCain

I called her during lunch.

She thinks McCain was promised SoS or another high-ranking Cabinet post in the Romney Administration, and between that and losing in 2008, he is having a meltdown.

I think it's not a bad theory.

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My mother has a good theory about McCain (Original Post) obamanut2012 Nov 2012 OP
Added to that, his good friend Lieberman lost his seat. PDJane Nov 2012 #1
Lieberbutt retired. But I think he knew the writing was on the wall and he wasn't going to win. southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #6
Ain't that the truth! First we threw his bony butt out of the CT Dem Party and most folks in CTyankee Nov 2012 #36
This is one man I can't stand. Truly can't stand. Nothing but an opportunist through and southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #37
Lots of very good people care about the Jewish community and Israel. My husband for one. CTyankee Nov 2012 #38
I didn't mean to offend you or your family. I am a supporter of a Jewish Nation. southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #39
Oh, I'm not offended. Please, don't worry about that! CTyankee Nov 2012 #40
You called it right traitor he is. Again I am glad you aren't mad at me. I like everyone southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #43
My theory is that he knows he is irrelevant and cannot stand to be out of the spotlight... driver8 Nov 2012 #2
lol obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #19
Nothing takes the shine off an election result like a good dust-up HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #3
Bingo!!! haikugal Nov 2012 #7
He's cranky, this was suppose to be _his_ reelection. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #4
My theory is that McCain was looking at 2016 and DURHAM D Nov 2012 #5
I think it's everything. He's mad because he every time he turns around he loses. Dawgs Nov 2012 #8
My theory Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #9
BINGO! - that, my friend, is simple and straight forward! -- n/t mazzarro Nov 2012 #28
An article I read stated that as a youngster McNasty used to throw such violent tantrums that he sammytko Nov 2012 #10
The real question is...Why is Lindsey Graham involved? Walk away Nov 2012 #11
He expected Petraeus to be President in 2016. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #15
As did a lot of Republicans. And they were counting on Petreus to help bring down yellowcanine Nov 2012 #23
I can see Romney promising McCain a job as Secretary of Defense. Zen Democrat Nov 2012 #12
He is just a bitter old man. mary195149 Nov 2012 #13
His bitterness is misdirected - he should be bitter at the GOP for denying him the nomination in Midwestern Democrat Nov 2012 #30
Interesting theory. SheilaT Nov 2012 #14
yes. I think that's it demhottie Nov 2012 #16
Your mom and I think alike leftynyc Nov 2012 #17
I thought Defense, too obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #21
Here's another interesting theory leftynyc Nov 2012 #22
hmmmmmm obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #24
the committee on demagoguery CreekDog Nov 2012 #26
None of these theories leftynyc Nov 2012 #27
McCain should have retired when he was ahead. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #18
When Mitt lost, McCain, Graham and others Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #20
My theory is that it was time for his regularly scheduled meltdown CreekDog Nov 2012 #25
I never thought of that. That could be it, and he is just a bitter man. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #29
oh yes ganggng Nov 2012 #31
SoS? Holy cow, I hope not. aletier_v Nov 2012 #32
Yes we dodged a big bullet, thankfully Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #42
We need to help McCain more in attaining that meltdown. LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #33
I think it's the writing on the wall lunatica Nov 2012 #34
The only committee he is eligible for in the next Congress is Indian Affairs. MjolnirTime Nov 2012 #35
My theory is that he is an asshole and that is something assholes do world wide wally Nov 2012 #41
 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
6. Lieberbutt retired. But I think he knew the writing was on the wall and he wasn't going to win.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:53 PM
Nov 2012

I say don't let the door hit you on the way out.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
36. Ain't that the truth! First we threw his bony butt out of the CT Dem Party and most folks in
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:27 PM
Nov 2012

CT hadn't caught on as we progressives had, so they voted him in as an Independent. And then he wreaked havoc on the Dem Party and the entire country. His fit of pique cost us all a LOT by preventing discussion of the Public Option on health care. The guy is a criminal in my book!

Now the voters in CT know better. They know all about Traitor Joe...

One thing we can bank on is that he won't return to CT. He'll find himself a nice cushy spot in D.C. so his wife can continue her lobbying duties for the insurance industry...

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
37. This is one man I can't stand. Truly can't stand. Nothing but an opportunist through and
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:21 PM
Nov 2012

through. He only cared for himself and the Jewish community.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
38. Lots of very good people care about the Jewish community and Israel. My husband for one.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:55 PM
Nov 2012

My granddaughters also. Joe is hardly a hero in their books just because he is Jewish. I am in a very Jewish neighborhood bordering on his old neighborhood and the sentiment has changed. We are an extremely liberal/progressive community and we have have some very devout Orthodox families who walk to shull on my street every Saturday morning. They were in Joe's congregation and some knew him well. But they are no longer supportive of him. He sold out and they know it.

I think bringing Joe's religion into it is misleading and doesn't accurately reflect opinions in the Jewish community, one that knows him well and used to support him.

Just a few facts that not a lot of people outside of our little area of New Haven would know about...

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
39. I didn't mean to offend you or your family. I am a supporter of a Jewish Nation.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:26 PM
Nov 2012

It's just something about him I feel he sold out many people. That is what I observe it isn't meant has a hit on the Jewish community. He could be a catholic and I would still feel the same way. It's all about what is good for Joe.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
40. Oh, I'm not offended. Please, don't worry about that!
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:40 PM
Nov 2012

I just wanted folks to know that Joe's popularity is at a real low here in CT and many of his former Jewish supporters now can't stand him. Once he sold his house here in the Westville section of town he just deserted CT and everything we used to like him for. A real Traitor!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
43. You called it right traitor he is. Again I am glad you aren't mad at me. I like everyone
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:56 PM
Nov 2012

and religion really for me is interesting.

driver8

(12,710 posts)
2. My theory is that he knows he is irrelevant and cannot stand to be out of the spotlight...
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:50 PM
Nov 2012

So he has to produce his own drama!

He is like a little kid yelling, "Look at me! Look at me!".

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
5. My theory is that McCain was looking at 2016 and
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:53 PM
Nov 2012

thought Petraeus would be the next President until the current President "unfairly" put a hex on that.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
10. An article I read stated that as a youngster McNasty used to throw such violent tantrums that he
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:57 PM
Nov 2012

would pass out. His parents would throw him in a cold tub of water.

He needs the cold water treatment again. But then we might get to see him pass out on live TV.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
11. The real question is...Why is Lindsey Graham involved?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:57 PM
Nov 2012

Ok he is McCain's lap dog but what does he get out of it?

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
15. He expected Petraeus to be President in 2016.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:04 PM
Nov 2012

Lindsay wanted to be SOS or DOD head or appointed to the Supreme Court or perhaps VP.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
23. As did a lot of Republicans. And they were counting on Petreus to help bring down
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:56 PM
Nov 2012

Obama over Benghazi. And now it is all blowing up in their faces and that plus the disappointment of losing so badly in 2012 is more than they can bear. Poor babies.

mary195149

(379 posts)
13. He is just a bitter old man.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:58 PM
Nov 2012

He lost the election in 2008. He felt he paid his dues for so many years and here comes a young black junior senator who beat him.
At this point, the republican party is so unpopular, they have nothing to truly run on except confuse the issues and hope they can win voters over convincing the people Obama Administration cannot be trusted. So far, thank god, it hasn't worked. But, it looks like they are not done trying.

30. His bitterness is misdirected - he should be bitter at the GOP for denying him the nomination in
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:52 AM
Nov 2012

2000 and at Bush for making 2008 such a steep climb for him. In 2000, McCain was younger and a better candidate, it was a much friendlier year for the GOP, and McCain probably would have beaten Gore handidly in the general - but the GOP establishment gave it to Bush, who went on to make 2008 - the year the nod was finally given to McCain - basically a suicide mission for any Republican.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. Here's another interesting theory
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:36 PM
Nov 2012

It basically says that since he's been term limited out of being the senior pub at Armed Services Committee, he's looking for a new gig in January and a new committee would fit the bill.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/16/john-mccain-benghazi-committee_n_2145457.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
27. None of these theories
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:24 PM
Nov 2012

cast him in a good light and yet they're all very believable. He's bitter about something and I can't believe it's still about 2008.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
25. My theory is that it was time for his regularly scheduled meltdown
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:06 PM
Nov 2012

since it had been one day since the previous one.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
32. SoS? Holy cow, I hope not.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:56 AM
Nov 2012

McCain is far too flaky and out-of-date for SoS.

I can't believe even Romney would do something like that.

Maybe we dodged a larger bullet than i thought.

LiberalFighter

(50,942 posts)
33. We need to help McCain more in attaining that meltdown.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:06 AM
Nov 2012

Remind McCain that he failed to get that cabinet position in the Romney administration that was promised him.

Push this on your FaceBook or better yet use Twitter to spread it every time you have a chance. Anytime McCain appears on a show tag something about McCain not getting a Romney cabinet position in a tweet.

Make sure you use a hashtag in the message so it is identified easy when a search is made. Something like #McCain_DefenseScty

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
34. I think it's the writing on the wall
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:35 AM
Nov 2012

President Obama being re-elected has changed everything from now on. If he had been beaten by the white man President Obama would be explained away as a slight fluke and it would have taken another half dozen elections before a black man or woman would be elected to the Presidency.

The fact that he was not only re-elected, but was re-elected big is what's killing white men like McCain. They know they've lost their historical power over 'minorities'. They know they're the new shrinking minority now. And they can't stand it. Just like they can't stand this country not kicking ass in wars. They think that's the only thing that makes us great. Wars. White men like McCain live and breath their patriotism as warmongers. It's what being an American means to them.

 

MjolnirTime

(1,800 posts)
35. The only committee he is eligible for in the next Congress is Indian Affairs.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nov 2012

He's struggling mightily for relevance.

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