2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt seems Trump planned to stalk Clinton around the stage. An effort to control her?
Trump seemed to appear to be everywhere Hillary went. He pranced around behind her throughout the debate. It looked like an irate mate daring his woman to get out of line or I will smack you. I think he learned this technique to control women.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)writes3000
(4,734 posts)The problem is he looks unpleasant, weird and unhappy so it did him no favors.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Nobody caught on to it that night.
mothra1orbit
(231 posts)and it fits perfectly with his misogynistic profile. That kind of crowding into a woman's personal space is only one step away from inappropriate touching.
I'm proud of Hillary for standing her ground, for not--as many of us do, in self-protection or because women don't want to upset anyone--moving away from him when he approached her so closely.
LakeVermilion
(1,042 posts)Trump probably wants the unattainable. I'm going to guess that he eyed her up and down a few times.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Hillary Clinton has a brain. Plus, she was born in the US.
Shocking!
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spiderpig
(10,419 posts)His geopolitical awareness is somewhat limited.
raging moderate
(4,305 posts)Narcissists love to hog the limelight. And they want to be in every shot.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)but it just came off creepy and 'grabby'
Siwsan
(26,266 posts)In Trump's case, seated and behind a curtain so we wouldn't have to witness his non-stop gurning.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)It is strange how nobody picked up on that tactic.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)likely to deter her from using the debate footage in ads.
But it plays as if he's sneaking up behind her for a grope.
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raging moderate
(4,305 posts)I bet the Clinton camp will use these shots. Maybe with shark music.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)"One more wrong word out of you woman!"
Thegonagle
(806 posts)He was trying to stay in front of the camera, as he's been doing most of his life, almost on instinct at this point.
But when the camera is zoomed in on a close shot of Hillary, it makes him appear even closer than he really is. The way a zoom lens "flattens" a telephoto shot elevates the creep factor from stalker to full-on pussy-grabber.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)positioned in the camera shot.
catbyte
(34,393 posts)mopinko
(70,113 posts)the world is full of creepy exes.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)It was bizarre and rude.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)He stood, at times, right behind her. If she just reversed directions really quickly they might have bumped into each other.
I bet she could feel him breathing down her neck!
athena
(4,187 posts)in that it was very hard to concentrate on what Hillary was saying with him standing or pacing so close to her. Those who are saying Hillary was rattled were probably projecting their own inability to concentrate onto her. Hillary did great nonetheless, and I admire her for it. I wish I could be that strong and cool when faced with bullies.
hopeforchange2008
(610 posts)Chemisse
(30,813 posts)GWC58
(2,678 posts)seriously sick in the head."
Cha
(297,275 posts)predatory asshole stalking her on the debate stage?
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)demmiblue
(36,860 posts)The repulsiveness of it sends shivers down my spine.
Way to win over women voters, Don!
Props to Hillary for handling the situation with such poise.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)All women have a deep-seated fear of being attacked by a man, and I am betting that all but the most staunchly Hillary-hating women seeing this behavioral had a visceral response to it.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)That the fact he was in in "Hillary's Space" he dominated the debate. This was an attempt to play on the domination fantasies of those weak-ass men who worship "alpha males."
apnu
(8,758 posts)She was using a Bill Clinton debate trick in Town Halls were he gets up and walks across the stage to address the questioner and put himself between the question and his adversary. This has an effect of making the other person look either left out or force the camera to catch the scowls of the other person making them look like a douche.
Its a brilliant, and subtle tactic and Hillary used it to fantastic effect.
Trump, for his part, fell for it and spent time walking into it, making him look like a creepy stalker. Even when he was going back to his chair, the camera made it appear he was walking up on her.
He got played by Hillary, what a dope.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)The facial expressions, the gait, the relentlessness of the creep. Mr. pig and I both agreed that if anyone got in our space that way we'd go for the pepper spray.
dem in texas
(2,674 posts)She said he was going to grab her "kitty".