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rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:23 AM Oct 2016

OMG I am so pissed here is what someone I have known since preschool wrote about me

"A friend (who happens to be Catholic) recently posted that she will be voting for Hillary Clinton. Now we all know that the Catholic Church supports religious freedom and is pro-life. We also know that these are things that Hillary Clinton is against.
Will someone PLEASE explain to me my friend's logic for voting for Hillary, because I'm confused!"

This was posted on facebook along with this nasty message inbox

"I think you might want to remove me from your friend list. Now that I see that you are going to support Miss Hillary. If she wins and starts tearing down this country like I know she will, I will blame people like you who couldn't open their eyes to the truth. As a Catholic, understand that she will be coming after your religious freedom."

I cried because this came out of nowhere this person has never discussed politics with me. I mean what the hell?

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OMG I am so pissed here is what someone I have known since preschool wrote about me (Original Post) rbrnmw Oct 2016 OP
so sorry for you. But that's no friend. That's a jerk. mainer Oct 2016 #1
The Catholic Church is also fiercely anti Death Penalty alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #2
Anyone who would vote for TRump isn't your friend. JoePhilly Oct 2016 #3
I'm sorry this happened to you. But she has done spooky3 Oct 2016 #4
that fact that they made it public hurt the most rbrnmw Oct 2016 #7
I understand, but she's the one who's done wrong, spooky3 Oct 2016 #12
*hugs* retrowire Oct 2016 #5
More Catholics support Hillary than Trump. You're on the right side. writes3000 Oct 2016 #6
defriend, move on Grey Lemercier Oct 2016 #8
Tell her that my brother who is a Catholic Priest is voting for Hillary. upaloopa Oct 2016 #9
This is a good response. Sophiegirl Oct 2016 #35
That's is a huge endorsement! yeoman6987 Oct 2016 #36
I delight in unfriending idiots on Facebook. People I have known since childhood, family, etc. LexVegas Oct 2016 #10
All they have is hate. That is all that Drump is giving them. I'm sorry this happened to you. nt JTFrog Oct 2016 #11
I feel like he attacked my devotion to the Church as well rbrnmw Oct 2016 #13
You are a better Catholic DUgosh Oct 2016 #16
Right now, you are feeling what HE wants you to feel. PunksMom Oct 2016 #24
I am so sorry DUgosh Oct 2016 #14
I feel for you The Polack MSgt Oct 2016 #15
Me too. GWC58 Oct 2016 #22
Melania says she lost friends because of this election... Stellar Oct 2016 #17
That damned RW rage get the red out Oct 2016 #18
I'm not Catholic, but I have a number of friends who are. cwydro Oct 2016 #19
Deee loooo shuuuun aaaaalllllll! JHB Oct 2016 #20
Your friend is not bright. Ignore her. GeorgeGist Oct 2016 #21
If she is voting for Trump SHE is the shitty Catholic. redwitch Oct 2016 #23
So sorry. This has been a horrible election, and seeing people like this be so dumb and obnoxious is Fast Walker 52 Oct 2016 #25
Understand it hurts... apcalc Oct 2016 #26
I imagine it's quite shocking! MissB Oct 2016 #27
I would respond..... Uben Oct 2016 #28
Tell her it sounds like she wants a break from your friendship. Ilsa Oct 2016 #29
Explain to her why Hillary is the best choice to prevent abortions TXCritter Oct 2016 #30
Don't waste your time. Ignore him. ffr Oct 2016 #31
What is his point, if not outright agression? salin Oct 2016 #32
Is Hillary the anti-Christ now? Wasn't it supposed to be Obama? Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #33
you don't need people like that in your life, they are no friend. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #34
I guess there Catholics and then there are Catholics DFW Oct 2016 #37
thanks I know exactly what you mean rbrnmw Oct 2016 #38
I would probably craft a response on why Trump is so horrible Cakes488 Oct 2016 #39
LOGIC is the reason FOR the vote! Believing 20 plus years of hipocrates throwing stones at her fob Oct 2016 #40
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
2. The Catholic Church is also fiercely anti Death Penalty
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:24 AM
Oct 2016

It's not an incidental doctrine: it is the very same doctrine as that which prohibits abortion.

Trump is pro-death penalty. So, then...

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
4. I'm sorry this happened to you. But she has done
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:26 AM
Oct 2016

you a favor in showing her true colors. She's not a friend and her rude and bigoted, ignorant comments reflect on her, not you.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
5. *hugs*
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:26 AM
Oct 2016

I learned a whole bunch of my friends weren't really friends when I met my wife. I know it's hard but, you know you have real friends elsewhere. They do exist!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
9. Tell her that my brother who is a Catholic Priest is voting for Hillary.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:28 AM
Oct 2016

He is pro life but not pro hate

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
35. This is a good response.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:40 AM
Oct 2016

Then, do as she wishes and unfriendly her.

I know it was hurtful, but time that pain and disappointment.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
36. That's is a huge endorsement!
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:40 AM
Oct 2016

Thank your brother for voting the right way (with his brain and heart) and for his selfless life of the priesthood.

LexVegas

(6,067 posts)
10. I delight in unfriending idiots on Facebook. People I have known since childhood, family, etc.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:29 AM
Oct 2016

If they are a racist, sexist, xenophobe or homophobe, I love to hit the unfriend. And if I suspect them to be one of those things, I will bait them incessantly.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
11. All they have is hate. That is all that Drump is giving them. I'm sorry this happened to you. nt
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:29 AM
Oct 2016

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
13. I feel like he attacked my devotion to the Church as well
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:31 AM
Oct 2016

he is a better Catholic or something it hurts

DUgosh

(3,056 posts)
16. You are a better Catholic
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:34 AM
Oct 2016

Because you feel pain. Those Donald supporters have no empathy or souls

PunksMom

(440 posts)
24. Right now, you are feeling what HE wants you to feel.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:01 AM
Oct 2016

Don't give him, or anyone that power. If you feel right in your convictions, that is all that matters. My mother is 89, and very active in her church still. She & many of her friends are supporting Hillary. There is way more to this election than pro-life, and smart people know it. Grieve the loss of this friendship if you must, but don't let them dictate (like tRump) , what you stand for!
Hugs

DUgosh

(3,056 posts)
14. I am so sorry
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:31 AM
Oct 2016

I'm Catholic and have been getting those messages - indirectly so far. I'm expecting it to get worse.

The Polack MSgt

(13,188 posts)
15. I feel for you
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:33 AM
Oct 2016

My FB presence is rather limited. Family, friends from school and the service, and associates/fans of the same teams and bands. Less than 220 people at the peak.

Now? Less than 150 and still dropping.

25 years of a "vast right wing conspiracy" to smear Hillary Clinton worked better than any other Republican program in the same time period... Shit it's the ONLY successful program they've managed in that period.

I can push back against and try to reason with the "I don't trust her" camp, but I just delete Trump supporters, there is no redeeming them if they buy that BS.

They were closet racist homosexual hating bigots the whole time.

It's depressing though - no mistake about that

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
22. Me too.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:55 AM
Oct 2016

I have a Facebook page but haven't been on it for almost 5 years. For all I know, or care, it might be gone. By the way I'm Catholic and will proudly vote Hillary!

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
17. Melania says she lost friends because of this election...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:37 AM
Oct 2016

but you are lucky, you are not married to Trump.

Okay, I know that this is hurtful, but tell yourself that this too will pass.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
18. That damned RW rage
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:37 AM
Oct 2016

She must have felt the need to give hell to a liberal. This sickness is becoming so common in this country.

She can remove you from her friend's list, how obnoxious asking you to do it.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. I'm not Catholic, but I have a number of friends who are.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:38 AM
Oct 2016

Every last one of them is voting for Hillary.

This "friend" of yours is some kind of whacked.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
20. Deee loooo shuuuun aaaaalllllll!
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:40 AM
Oct 2016

No different from the people back in 1996 who insisted that if Bill was re-elected he'd invite the Chinese Red Army in as blue-helmeted UN Peacekeepers, and we'd be under foreign rule by 1998.

Somehow, after 18 years of supposedly being under the thumb of the ChiComs, the only blue helmets I see are utility worker hard-hats, and my command of Chinese remains limited to a general greeting and some menu items.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
25. So sorry. This has been a horrible election, and seeing people like this be so dumb and obnoxious is
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:07 AM
Oct 2016

depressing as hell. I feel your pain.

MissB

(15,808 posts)
27. I imagine it's quite shocking!
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:13 AM
Oct 2016

My kids have had the same piano teacher since they were 4 and 5. The youngest is a senior in high school this year. Over the summer, the piano teacher and I connected on Facebook.

You just never know. I admit I've always made assumptions about her political leanings because she is a very devout Catholic.

Turns out she is very pro-Hillary and extremely anti-Trump.

Thing is, I'd rather not know. I keep my Facebook friend list confined mostly to family so I can keep track of their lives. I've seen a friend get attacked on Facebook because she doesn't separate out her personal views and her professional life.

As others have said, unfriend them and move on.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
28. I would respond.....
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:14 AM
Oct 2016

...so, you're voting for Trump, eh? A man who is currently charged with raping a 13 yr old, admits publicly to molesting women, has been married 3 times, cheats hard working contractors out of their pay, cheats on taxes, and brags about it all. You're a special kind of friend aren't you? I try to avoid friendships with scum, so I have unfriended you, and if you ever try to speak to me again in person, I will spit in your face. You're not a friend, you're a piece of shit!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
29. Tell her it sounds like she wants a break from your friendship.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:14 AM
Oct 2016

Offer to stand back until after the election, after a few months have passed. Then send her your usual Christmas greetings. Maybe then you can restart your friendship in the joyous season with the understanding that neither of you will talk politics.

I think it's okay to tell her what the other replies have mentioned: that many Catholics, including priests, are supporting Clinton. No one is changing the Constitution to halt religious freedom. Then make your offer. Losing a friend over this stuff will be difficult if you both go down that road, but you can't stop it if she chooses it for herself.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
31. Don't waste your time. Ignore him.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:32 AM
Oct 2016

He won't change. HE WON'T! Put your time to better use, doing and saying positive things about Hillary Clinton.

salin

(48,955 posts)
32. What is his point, if not outright agression?
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:33 AM
Oct 2016

Why the "you might want to remove me...", rather than his just quietly unfriended you? He is emulating what he sees from the hyper-aggressive Trump, and trump supporters (aka teapartiers) and reacting out of fear - fears that are hyped/stoked/spiked in a ceaseless (and dare I say some what hypnotic) cycle across rw media - and indeed then echoed from some pulpits.

It is not personal - that is don't take it as personal. Do recognize it as a symptom of a terrible phenomenon gripping many of our fellow citizens. You just got a up close and personal calling card.

I am very sorry you received this, and for the disruption it has caused.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,854 posts)
33. Is Hillary the anti-Christ now? Wasn't it supposed to be Obama?
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:36 AM
Oct 2016

He still needs to confiscate the guns and put us in FEMA camps, but he's running short on time!


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
34. you don't need people like that in your life, they are no friend.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:37 AM
Oct 2016

cut her loose and go out and make decent friends

DFW

(54,387 posts)
37. I guess there Catholics and then there are Catholics
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:48 AM
Oct 2016

My wife was raised as one, although she no longer wants anything to do with religion. Her mom is still a devout Catholic who goes to Mass regularly. Her mom has accepted me, a heathen foreigner, with open arms, and is thrilled that her daughter has, for the last 42 years, been with a man who loves her and will do anything for her. She also loves her heathen (by choice, one we encouraged them to explore and make on their own) granddaughters, who also adore her.

Then again, there are the people who instigated and carried out the Spanish Inquisition. Be friends with THAT kind of Catholic at your peril, and that's advice I'd give anyone, including Catholics.

 

Cakes488

(874 posts)
39. I would probably craft a response on why Trump is so horrible
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 12:03 PM
Oct 2016

I would manipulate my position by saying It's not even that i'm so pro Hillary...it's just I'm so afraid of Trump. I try to make it like "I'm one of them".

If it gets nasty I would say listen you want to remove me as your friend...actually you better just block me right now before I unleash on your ass.

fob

(5,578 posts)
40. LOGIC is the reason FOR the vote! Believing 20 plus years of hipocrates throwing stones at her
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 12:38 PM
Oct 2016

and following some ridiculous "she will be coming after your religious freedom" nonsense most certainly has your friend "confused".

Bill Clinton ran on "keeping abortion SAFE, LEGAL, and RARE" instead of the "religious freedom" tenet of "make it illegal and jail the mother". The former plan is PRO-LIFE, the latter is insane.

The only person that wants to take away any type of freedom is 'don grab you by the pussy chump', and you don't need to BELIEVE he will do so, he TOLD you he's allowed to! He will COVET your wife and try and fuck her at the furniture store.

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