2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis photo shows Trump at his worst last night:
Big, scowling man looming behind Hillary Clinton, with his thumbs hooked inside his belt. It's the very picture of a domineering rapist about to punish the "little woman" for her impudence. This is the man Trump is. He is menacing, dangerous, and volatile. He is a threat to every woman in this country.
GOTV for Hillary!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I just can't stand the sight of him or the sound of his voice. What a bully!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Jeet Heer @HeerJeet 57 minutes ago
2012: Clint Eastwood yells at chair at GOP convention. 2016: Donald Trump fornicates with chair at presidential debate.
felicia the critic @felicianista
Why does Donald Trump sniffle so much? Seems like a major health issue at this point. And why did he fornicate that chair? #TrumpPence #MAGA
Slemo @im2flySHOEfly
The way Trump was molesting that chair last night I would hate to see what he does at IKEA! 😂
Sam Stein @samsteinhp 1 hour ago
oh my god, @iamandymcdonald
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fell-in-love-with-his-debate-chair-right-before-our-eyes_us_57fbe89de4b0e655eab6b763 ?
homegirl
(1,429 posts)I was discussing Donald's "sniffles" with a health care professional. She said it had been discussed at work and one possibility is COPD.
chillfactor
(7,576 posts)there are some dumb ass women who will vote for him...
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)The thumbs are hooked to the belt or the pockets while the fingers spread out and highlight the crotch. This gesture is used by men to display a dominant, sexually aggressive attitude. It is perhaps the most direct sexual display a man can make towards a woman.
Men also use this gesture to stake their territory or to show other men that they're not afraid. This gesture communicates the non-verbal message, I am virile, powerful and dominant.
It is a crotch display.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Been hunting for this piece and with advancing dolt age,again am bailed out by the young ones. Thanks.
erronis
(15,286 posts)And, quite frankly, glad that it doesn't rule anymore!
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)world wide wally
(21,744 posts)very small
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)LakeArenal
(28,819 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Did not watch debate, but did tape it, and am gonna play it with sound off to watch their body language.
pamela
(3,469 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Seriously, though, it's a message of frustration that says, I wish I could slap her silly. Clearly.
tblue37
(65,389 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)boomer55
(592 posts)No I am not exaggerating.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Hilarious video this: https://vine.co/v/5gL7ELgniLe
Sam Stein @samsteinhp 1 hour ago
oh my god, @iamandymcdonald
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fell-in-love-with-his-debate-chair-right-before-our-eyes_us_57fbe89de4b0e655eab6b763
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Jeet Heer @HeerJeet 57 minutes ago
2012: Clint Eastwood yells at chair at GOP convention. 2016: Donald Trump fornicates with chair at presidential debate.
felicia the critic @felicianista
Why does Donald Trump sniffle so much? Seems like a major health issue at this point. And why did he fornicate that chair? #TrumpPence #MAGA
Slemo @im2flySHOEfly
The way Trump was molesting that chair last night I would hate to see what he does at IKEA! 😂
VWolf
(3,944 posts)"I took her shopping for furniture" in the 2005 tape is a euphemism for something else?
Enquiring minds want to know.
He's thinking '...to the moon, Alice!'
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Too much coke....or something. Just, wow.
Skoods
(341 posts)that was some sort of hyperbolic diatribe you just reeled out. Loved it. But, maybe a bit overstated.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)It's recognized as a body language posture projecting dominance or sexual intent.
Trump's threatening Hillary in that photo. She can't see him, but he's doing it anyhow.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Really awful to watch him behind her trying to cower her into a corner!
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)But from the (and a) woman's perspective, he may think she doesn't see him but she "sees" him with the "3rd eye" (remember how moms always talked about "eyes in the back of their head?? - actually women supposedly have better peripheral vision too) and "feels" him behind her pacing. I expect they were on a slightly raised-floor stage and she could also feel the vibrations of him pacing around like a rabid animal.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)his aggression and staying "out of her space" seemed obvious to me. At one point when he'd moved up too close behind her when she came into "his" side of the rostrum to speak with a questioner, he seemed to realize it and quickly retreated not just back to his podium but all the way to the stool he hadn't used since the beginning. It seemed like a guilty move. Maybe he's been told what that crotch-framing stance indicates.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)Trump's words or the optics of the big oaf lurching around the stage - always ending up behind Sec. Clinton when she was speaking. The scene screamed "Stranger Danger!!!!" He is one sick fucker.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)childhood, frustrated because it'd been pounded into his head that he couldn't act dominating (i.e., normally) and needed to stay tethered to his podium. He forgot a couple of times but mostly circled it as she moved, always being on her side of it to assert his claim to whatever of his territory she was closest to.
Pathetic.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)That was Trump on his BEST behavoir...
OMG...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)tblue37
(65,389 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)To teach that demented old lech how to act like a normal human being.
His daddy must have really done some damage to little Donald.
budkin
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Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)He was acting the tough guy for his Neanderthal fans. What an absolute putz.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts). . . carry something to term.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)kwolf68
(7,365 posts)respectable, but here he is.
Bush was an idiot, but he wasn't a dickhead to his opponents. He did display some measure of humility and grace in debates and interchanges with his opponents (not to say Republican lead groups didn't do some dirty shit to Senator Kerry).
Bush was a puppet for the Cheney crime cabal and I still believe to be the absolute worst president this nation has ever seen, but by comparison to this clown they have stuck up there, he all of a sudden seems palatable.
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)I would never want to be in the same room with him.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)One, Clinton's hands look bigger, and
any time Trump opens his mouth he is at his worst.
allan01
(1,950 posts)ss and billy would have been all over him like flies.
elmac
(4,642 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)Enuf said.
ffr
(22,670 posts)Whatever time I can give.
It'll be worth it for the future we'll have by democratic representation.
procon
(15,805 posts)Yeah, I'd call that intimidation.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)groundloop
(11,519 posts)Hillary did exactly that while tRump was speaking... calmly seated on her stool, paying attention to what don was saying, occasionally jotting down notes. In short, she looked presidential.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)and someone must have told him that duck pout makes him look presidential because he's always mugging it.
I think he holds his mouth like that because when it's normal it looks like Betty Boop's mouth. Or an anus. Whichever you prefer.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,291 posts)"Light some place Donald, you are making the audience dizzy."
calimary
(81,297 posts)That's what I kept thinking throughout the debate. SHEESH, Sit DOWN, little boy! CRIMINY!
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)IGNORED him. Nothing makes him angrier. Surely she knew he was right behind her; anyone can feel that happening. But she just calmly said what she was going to say as if he didn't exist.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)So unprofessional!
mcar
(42,334 posts)I was so uncomfortable watching this last night, as were many, if not most, women. My husband was bothered by it too. He said "what the hell is Trump doing?"
Hillary has risen even higher in my estimation because she didn't overtly react to it. A strong woman.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)But there were probably no explicit rules that required it, so they kept mum.
In my mind, this will forever be the mental image of this debate, and it's certainly not favorable to Trump.
Victory HRC. Another one.
notKeith
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liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)Anderson, Martha, Hillary or one of the people in the audience maybe. I was just waiting for him to lose it.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)I swear, he is one of the most loathesome scum bags I could possibly think of. I think he's made a name for himself alright.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)"I took her shopping for furniture" in the 2005 tape
Is it a euphemism for something else?
Enquiring minds want to know.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)"Here, let me help you relax a little."
btw, he doesn't use his fingers to frame his "business", that's what his extended tie is for.