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BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 05:58 PM Oct 2016

Powerful Evangelical Women Split From Male Church Leaders To Slam Trump

This is bigly.

Beth Moore doesn’t spent much time on politics.
The enormously popular evangelist—her sermons and conferences sell out arenas and printed bible studies are perennial bestsellers—is more likely to be found helping women understand the life of the Apostle Paul or tweeting about her husband, new granddaughter and two adorable dogs.

But something changed for Moore after Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for President of the United States, was caught on tape bragging about his ability to sexual assault women. When Trump said, “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything,” Moore had had enough.

“I'm one among many women sexually abused, misused, stared down, heckled, talked naughty to. Like we liked it. We didn’t. We’re tired of it,” Moore said. She also had a word about evangelical leaders still supporting Trump: “Try to absorb how acceptable the disesteem and objectifying of women has been when some Christian leaders don’t think it's that big a deal.”
Moore’s broken silence about the 2016 race—rooted in her own experience with sexual assault—signals a widening gender divide between evangelicals. Increasingly, moderate and conservative Christian women are speaking out about Trump’s brand of misogyny and divisiveness, and condemning support for the nominee or silence about him from male evangelicals. . . .

Beth Moore wasn't alone in her condemnation of Trump. Her comments sent ripples around the evangelical world and were seconded by Christian mega-speaker and author Christine Caine. Sara Groves, the Dove Award-Nominated Christian artist, told me, “Someone like Beth can go a long way in helping Evangelicals recognize these major blind spots.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/10/beth-moore-the-christian-women-speaking-out-about-trump-s-bad-news.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page
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Powerful Evangelical Women Split From Male Church Leaders To Slam Trump (Original Post) BainsBane Oct 2016 OP
Thanks for this, BB mcar Oct 2016 #1
Powerful Evangelical Women. Isn't that a bit of an oximoron, accepting/promoting Paternalism? TheBlackAdder Oct 2016 #30
St Paul said that women should shut up in church. stopbush Oct 2016 #2
The Bible says all kinds of things BainsBane Oct 2016 #4
St. Paul, the original mysogenist CanonRay Oct 2016 #6
He was the father of Xianity. stopbush Oct 2016 #8
Paul was the gospel used by slaveholders in the Old South BainsBane Oct 2016 #11
The only way to make America great again IronLionZion Oct 2016 #19
You know they would BainsBane Oct 2016 #22
K&R sheshe2 Oct 2016 #3
Good for her CanonRay Oct 2016 #5
I never understood how they could support Trump BainsBane Oct 2016 #9
Moore very popular with the evangelical women. northoftheborder Oct 2016 #7
And the debate seems to have made no difference BainsBane Oct 2016 #12
Agree. Bravo to her. anamandujano Oct 2016 #14
Do you know people who follow this woman? BainsBane Oct 2016 #26
I haven't heard of her either but according to the article she has a great following so anamandujano Oct 2016 #27
I have two friends from college days who are big fans of Moore and recently been to mnhtnbb Oct 2016 #28
I do obamanut2012 Oct 2016 #29
When speaking about Trump, add -ly or -est. Hugely, Bigly, Awsomely - Hugest, Bigest, Awesomest etc. TheBlackAdder Oct 2016 #31
Perhaps there are OTHER things the male evangelical leaders have gotten wrong for eons... LeftRant Oct 2016 #10
This election we are learning a lot about America! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #13
We are at a crossroads... jumptheshadow Oct 2016 #15
I hope many more follow. BainsBane Oct 2016 #16
K&R Ruby the Liberal Oct 2016 #17
It's about time...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #18
WOW!!! The macrochanges we are witnessing...just phenomenal. It is inspiring. AgadorSparticus Oct 2016 #20
This is a sight to behold no doubt about that When Hil pulls evangelical women you know Monk06 Oct 2016 #25
Trump Is Losing Educated GOP Women—and Splitting Up Families Along the Way ffr Oct 2016 #21
Interesting article BainsBane Oct 2016 #23
Talk about Good News. Thanks, BB. Hekate Oct 2016 #24
I have a good friend who is Evangelical obamanut2012 Oct 2016 #32
Interesting. BainsBane Oct 2016 #33
I agree obamanut2012 Oct 2016 #34
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2016 #35

mcar

(42,331 posts)
1. Thanks for this, BB
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:00 PM
Oct 2016

I live in Bible Belt FL and have been at these women who support him. This gives me hope.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
2. St Paul said that women should shut up in church.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:10 PM
Oct 2016

The fact that these evangelical women are clergy goes directly against a teaching in the Bible that they supposedly revere.

What's up with that?

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
11. Paul was the gospel used by slaveholders in the Old South
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:48 PM
Oct 2016

to try to instill obedience in the enslaved.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
14. Agree. Bravo to her.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 08:20 PM
Oct 2016

I wondered how uncomfortable the women might feel knowing that Trump's behavior was A-OK with the men in the church.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
27. I haven't heard of her either but according to the article she has a great following so
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 06:25 AM
Oct 2016

it's significant that she spoke up. The men defended Trump.

mnhtnbb

(31,389 posts)
28. I have two friends from college days who are big fans of Moore and recently been to
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 06:33 AM
Oct 2016

one of her seminars. One of the friends was instrumental in arranging for Moore to come to her church to do a conference.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
29. I do
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 07:57 AM
Oct 2016

She posted an FB post about how she wasn't supporting or voting to Trump, and how her faith is more important to her than Party, and that he is neither a Christian nor lives Christ's words. She's been attacked really badly over it, and her family has semi disowned her.

She is my only friend who is Evangelical. She told me she's felt this for months, but Moore's piece gave her the courage to come out, and that Moore is someone she respects very much.

* she is not voting for Hillary. She isn't voting for President. She is quite liberal socially (ie pro LGBT rights, holds the same position as Biden and Kaine on abortion), which has gotten her flack from church friends.

TheBlackAdder

(28,201 posts)
31. When speaking about Trump, add -ly or -est. Hugely, Bigly, Awsomely - Hugest, Bigest, Awesomest etc.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 08:07 AM
Oct 2016

.


Make a joke of his speaking style.


.

LeftRant

(524 posts)
10. Perhaps there are OTHER things the male evangelical leaders have gotten wrong for eons...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:44 PM
Oct 2016

Exactly how far will her critical thinking take her?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
17. K&R
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 08:47 PM
Oct 2016

Finally. Someone who can reach these people who keep voting against their own interests because they got hijacked by the war-profiteering right.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
25. This is a sight to behold no doubt about that When Hil pulls evangelical women you know
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:44 PM
Oct 2016

you are walking in a changed place

ffr

(22,670 posts)
21. Trump Is Losing Educated GOP Women—and Splitting Up Families Along the Way
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 09:00 PM
Oct 2016

10/05/16
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512471566

Pressure is building. 29 days to go and still time to register voters!

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
32. I have a good friend who is Evangelical
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 08:09 AM
Oct 2016

She posted an FB post about how she wasn't supporting or voting to Trump, and how her faith is more important to her than Party, and that he is neither a Christian nor lives Christ's words. She's been attacked really badly over it, and her family has semi disowned her.

She is my only friend who is Evangelical. She told me she's felt this for months, but Moore's piece gave her the courage to come out, and that Moore is someone she respects very much.

* she is not voting for Hillary. She isn't voting for President. She is quite liberal socially (ie pro LGBT rights, holds the same position as Biden and Kaine on abortion), which has gotten her flack from church friends.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
34. I agree
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 05:44 PM
Oct 2016

She not only doesn't consider Trump Christian or a moral man, she considers him depraved and evil.

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