2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPowerful Evangelical Women Split From Male Church Leaders To Slam Trump
This is bigly.
The enormously popular evangelisther sermons and conferences sell out arenas and printed bible studies are perennial bestsellersis more likely to be found helping women understand the life of the Apostle Paul or tweeting about her husband, new granddaughter and two adorable dogs.
But something changed for Moore after Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for President of the United States, was caught on tape bragging about his ability to sexual assault women. When Trump said, When youre a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything, Moore had had enough.
I'm one among many women sexually abused, misused, stared down, heckled, talked naughty to. Like we liked it. We didnt. Were tired of it, Moore said. She also had a word about evangelical leaders still supporting Trump: Try to absorb how acceptable the disesteem and objectifying of women has been when some Christian leaders dont think it's that big a deal.
Moores broken silence about the 2016 racerooted in her own experience with sexual assaultsignals a widening gender divide between evangelicals. Increasingly, moderate and conservative Christian women are speaking out about Trumps brand of misogyny and divisiveness, and condemning support for the nominee or silence about him from male evangelicals. . . .
Beth Moore wasn't alone in her condemnation of Trump. Her comments sent ripples around the evangelical world and were seconded by Christian mega-speaker and author Christine Caine. Sara Groves, the Dove Award-Nominated Christian artist, told me, Someone like Beth can go a long way in helping Evangelicals recognize these major blind spots.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/10/beth-moore-the-christian-women-speaking-out-about-trump-s-bad-news.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page
mcar
(42,331 posts)I live in Bible Belt FL and have been at these women who support him. This gives me hope.
TheBlackAdder
(28,201 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)The fact that these evangelical women are clergy goes directly against a teaching in the Bible that they supposedly revere.
What's up with that?
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)much of it contradictory.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)he would have loved Trump.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)And a sick and twisted shit.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)to try to instill obedience in the enslaved.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)is to instill obedience in the enslaved
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)If they could get away with it.
sheshe2
(83,770 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)I hope at least some of the Evangelicals wake up.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)He's a disgusting pig.
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)This is a HUGE important public statement.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Trump is still swimming in the shit he created.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)I wondered how uncomfortable the women might feel knowing that Trump's behavior was A-OK with the men in the church.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Any Trump supporters?
I myself hadn't heard of her.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)it's significant that she spoke up. The men defended Trump.
mnhtnbb
(31,389 posts)one of her seminars. One of the friends was instrumental in arranging for Moore to come to her church to do a conference.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)She posted an FB post about how she wasn't supporting or voting to Trump, and how her faith is more important to her than Party, and that he is neither a Christian nor lives Christ's words. She's been attacked really badly over it, and her family has semi disowned her.
She is my only friend who is Evangelical. She told me she's felt this for months, but Moore's piece gave her the courage to come out, and that Moore is someone she respects very much.
* she is not voting for Hillary. She isn't voting for President. She is quite liberal socially (ie pro LGBT rights, holds the same position as Biden and Kaine on abortion), which has gotten her flack from church friends.
TheBlackAdder
(28,201 posts).
Make a joke of his speaking style.
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LeftRant
(524 posts)Exactly how far will her critical thinking take her?
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Wow! Interesting news!
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)...and the people of integrity are standing up.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Finally. Someone who can reach these people who keep voting against their own interests because they got hijacked by the war-profiteering right.
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)you are walking in a changed place
ffr
(22,670 posts)10/05/16
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512471566
Pressure is building. 29 days to go and still time to register voters!
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Thanks for the link.
Hekate
(90,690 posts)obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)She posted an FB post about how she wasn't supporting or voting to Trump, and how her faith is more important to her than Party, and that he is neither a Christian nor lives Christ's words. She's been attacked really badly over it, and her family has semi disowned her.
She is my only friend who is Evangelical. She told me she's felt this for months, but Moore's piece gave her the courage to come out, and that Moore is someone she respects very much.
* she is not voting for Hillary. She isn't voting for President. She is quite liberal socially (ie pro LGBT rights, holds the same position as Biden and Kaine on abortion), which has gotten her flack from church friends.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Not voting for Trump helps Hillary.
Thanks for sharing that.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)She not only doesn't consider Trump Christian or a moral man, she considers him depraved and evil.