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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 09:30 PM Oct 2016

Trump's Murderous Rage at Hillary - Like a Typical Stalker Using Fear to Control

Men have often used fear to control women. While this is most often seen with stalker ex-boyfriends who upon rejection make it their life's mission to make their ex's miserable, many celebrity women have dealt with men trying to deal with feelings of insecurity by trying to make a target fearful as a means of exerting control. As Trump is seeing his chances of winning the Presidency slip away, as well as being humiliated with with revelations about how he treats women, his racism, etc., Trump is not only lashing out, but his actions seemed designed more to inflict pain on Hillary Clinton, rather than to win the Presidency:

1. The suggestions that his supporters assassinate her.
2. The threats to put her in jail if he wins./
3. The treats to not only bring up Bill Clinton's past actions, but to sit Bill Clinton's accusers next to Bill.
4. The physical stalking and standing directly behind her as she spoke at the last debate.

Trump has had a lot of practice in using fear, intimidation and threats of retaliation to control women, and the fact that Hillary is not caving to it, is obviously making him very, very angry. Trump may already be at the point where he is not really trying to win, but to do as much damage and cause as much fear as he can simply because it gives him a sense of pleasure to do so like your typical stalker.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/talking-about-trauma/201306/in-the-mind-stalker

The resentful stalker experiences feelings of injustice and desires revenge against their victim rather than a relationship. Their behavior reflects their perception that they have been humiliated and treated unfairly, viewing themselves as the victim. It is has been found that resentful stalkers often regard their fathers as highly controlling. Mark Chapman, the notorious John Lennon stalker and murderer is a classic case of a resentful stalker. He described himself as the world’s biggest rock fan and admired Lennon and all his work, until he read a biography of the musician. Angered that Lennon would “preach love and peace but yet have millions [of dollars],” Chapman shot and killed Lennon on December 8, 1980. In later testimonials, Chapman described how his father “never told me he loved me; and he never said he was sorry.” The focus on a distressing past and the compulsive reliving of this pain can contribute to a mood disorder. Also, in a fortunate few there is a paranoid disorder that responds at least partially, to antipsychotic medication.

Finally, the predator stalker also has no desire for a relationship with their victims, but a sense of power and control. Mullen explains that they find pleasure in gathering information about their victim and fantasizing about assaulting them physically, and most frequently sexually. Predatory stalkers should almost always be managed within a sex-offender program, with the main focus being on the management of the paraphilia that is the driving force behind the stalking behavior.

Therapeutic interventions for stalkers are directed first at their mental disorders. Stalkers as a group, have an impressive capacity to rationalize, minimize and excuse their behaviors. Mullen explains that in almost all stalkers there is a need both to improve interpersonal and social skills, and to instill a more realistic understanding of the impact of their behaviors on victims. Stalkers should be managed individually, with group work avoided. Like sex offenders, stalkers can readily establish networks of mutual support and information-sharing within the group, sustaining the behavior being treated.

In those stalkers motivated by a vengeful resentment, there is often an acute sensitivity to the confusion, distress and fear produced by their activities. Because of this sensitivity, programs developed to enhance victim empathy can be readily adapted for use with these individuals. It is uncommon to encounter a stalker with adequate interpersonal and social skills. Difficulties establishing or maintaining intimate relationships lie at the basis of many stalking episodes. Improving this area of function can contribute not only to resolving the current stalking but also to reduce the chances of reoffending. Many stalkers have narrowed their daily activities to being entirely focused on the victim. Encouraging even limited social activities can be helpful.
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Cha

(297,731 posts)
4. I was asking last night about what Hillary's Secret Service detail must have been thinking?
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 09:44 PM
Oct 2016

You know they were around.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
3. I Think The Media Was Looking at His Behavior and Interpreting How They Expected...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 09:41 PM
Oct 2016

...Hillary to react as a woman. However, Hillary knows she is kicking his ass and she has had more experience dealing with sexist, violent vitriol than any woman on the planet. Hillary Clinton is not beauty contestant looking for a break or a business woman looking for a favor. Hillary needs absolutely nothing from Trump, and she is kicking his ass.

I do not thing that Trump will melt down in the traditional sense of sounding like babbling idiot. Instead, I think Trump will get more and more focused on just trying to cause pain, fear and humiliation even at the expense of hurting his election chances. The carnival leading up to yesterday's debate is a prime example.

Cha

(297,731 posts)
5. Oh **** that's right! About the "assassination" whistle.. and calling for her to be
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 09:54 PM
Oct 2016

in prison at his rallies with "lock her up" shouts from his fans. And, that stupid manager of his said it was a joke because the blowback was so strong.

There aren't enough words to describe how psycho he is.. we have a fucking psycho running on the gop ticket against Hillary Clinton.

1. The suggestions that his supporters assassinate her.
2. The threats to put her in jail if he wins./
3. The treats to not only bring up Bill Clinton's past actions, but to sit Bill Clinton's accusers next to Bill.
4. The physical stalking and standing directly behind her as she spoke at the last debate





Yes, and he told us all about his stalking methods to get what he wants from women because he's a "star". Hillary is one woman he can't fire. 'Course he couldn't fire Nancy O'Dell, either.

Thank you, Tom

tblue37

(65,490 posts)
7. Actually, he TRIED to get her fired from her hosting role for the Miss Universe pageant, but NBC
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:05 PM
Oct 2016

said no.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. At times Trumps actions were boderline threatening.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:06 PM
Oct 2016

Are these Media Jerks waiting for Trump to get in Hillary's face and starting verbally accosting her? Sure seems that way,noticed the Secret People sure looked nervous when the debate ended and took precautionary positions around the stage exits.

As Trump amps up the verbiage,you just know the Secret Service is going to put their foot down. Noticed the Clinton's did not go to their Vehicles until the Trump Motorcade left the Parking Garage. In fact appears the Clinton's waited in their car for quite some time after Trump and his group left.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
10. Yep. You can see it in his nasty apricot face.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:19 PM
Oct 2016
Trump has had a lot of practice in using fear, intimidation and threats of retaliation to control women, and the fact that Hillary is not caving to it, is obviously making him very, very angry.
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