2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDemocratic elector says he may reject Clinton
Hes also one of 12 Democrats designated to cast his electoral vote for Clinton if she wins Washington, a blue state she's expected to easily carry. Now, hes caught in a fierce personal struggle over whether to rebel against her in the Electoral College, a decision that could create havoc in a close presidential contest.
How can I say and do and be who I am and then cast a vote for somebody thats the same as Trump? Satiacum wondered. They may be male, female, but theyre in the same canoe.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/washington-elector-hillary-clinton-rejection-229647
If this happens, all hell is going to break loose.
Emilybemily
(204 posts)And an idiot and misogynist.
Mike Nelson
(9,973 posts)...the answer to your personal struggle is obvious: resign immediately.
anoNY42
(670 posts)when it comes to teh gays, this guy just needs to quit.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)In many states, Electors MUST vote for their committed candidate and if they do not, they are subject to penalties.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)No "faithless elector" has ever been penalized.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)liberal N proud
(60,347 posts)How can the be compared as the SAME?
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)NOT based on his preference. He was given a role with specific procedures to it, not some kind of second back-up personal vote.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Gatekeepers failed.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,219 posts)....in the upcoming 100 EV Clinton landslide.
BainsBane
(53,076 posts)And should lose his position as an elector.
boston bean
(36,224 posts)Anyone??
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)His role is to cast his vote as his state votes. It's not "his" vote to cast in the first place. And if he announces that he can't do that, then the process to remove him should be started, so a replacement who can fulfill the duties of the role can be found instead.
I'm beyond tired of so many assholes thinking that our government exists to cater to their god damn special feelings!
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)This is such an obvious publicity stunt, it makes me sick.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)How did this POS ever get the position in the first place??
Congrats on being on the wrong side of history idiot!
smorkingapple
(827 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)EV_Ares
(6,587 posts)they should find a legal way to remove him as a elector.
apnu
(8,759 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)"Satiacum got involved in this election cycle as a delegate to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia for Bernie Sanders. He was among the delegates who stormed the press tent after Clinton was formally nominated. Satiacum was picked as a delegate, he said, largely by chance after delivering brief remarks at a local convention decrying the lack of concern for Indian Country. Later, Patsy Whiteout, a prominent Native American education advocate, nominated him to be an elector."
31 states have laws that require Electors to vote for whoever won the state, including WA.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)The current legal consensus is that laws penalizing "faithless electors" are unconstitutional.
No "faithless elector" has ever been penalized.
oasis
(49,428 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)BSdetect
(8,999 posts)It's completely bonkers.
We do not need 4 year long presidential campaigns - it's inhuman torture
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,737 posts)You have to submit to the will of the voters. Shit like this doesn't help.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Remove his sorry ass now. No need to wait.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_v._Blair
oasis
(49,428 posts)the press he gets from this story.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)And have their asses tossed in jail. That would be interference with the election.
C_U_L8R
(45,025 posts)No one cares what you think - do your job. Jerk.
bobGandolf
(871 posts)Has anyone explained to this guy it is not his vote to use. It is the electorates.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)dalton99
(781 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)It would not be the first time an elector went rogue. It has never thrown the election in doubt.
Gothmog
(145,666 posts)We vetted the people elected as electors at the state convention very carefully. In theory Washington law may enforce this elector to vote the right way.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)However, I would not be shocked.