2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo what do you think is going to happen in the 3rd Debate?
Are we going to see what we saw in the 2nd Debate where a question was asked and Trump just said whatever the F he wanted to say in response to the question. Hillary on the other hand answered each and every question asked, and the media seemed to not even notice, and there did not appear to be any repurcussions for his failure to answer the questions asked rather than make up his own question in his head which he responded to. And in spite of this, the debate was scored as being close even though Clinton did win. It helped a lot that in the 2nd Debate, the Debate question remained on the screen. At first I thought I had missed something, or that eventually he was going to tie his word salad response together in the form that addresses the question asked. No such luck. And the questions weren't anything abstract which could have been misinterpreted. They were pretty much straightforward. I spent the entire debate screaming at the TV.
So the 3rd Debate's moderator is Chris Wallace of Fox News who doesn't think that it is his job to be the Fact Checker. Well assuming that is not your role, Mr. Wallace, is it your role to call Trump out if he doesn't answer the question asked ?
Reportedly, Wallace will ask questions about debt and entitlements, immigration, the economy, the Supreme Court, foreign hot spots and the candidates fitness to be president, according to an announcement made Wednesday by the Commission on Presidential Debates. Each of the six segments will last 15 minutes. Those topics are subject to change based on any news developments.
So what should Hillary's response be if Trump once again fails to answer the debate questions and Wallace doesn't call him out on it. We know he's not going to fact check? Should Hillary, say something like, "I notice he doesn't bother to answer the question asked; he just makes statements. I thought this was a Debate in which the Moderator asks questions and we answer those questions." Now the reason I'm concerned is that this debate is about Foreign Policy and Government and other heavy stuff that we know Trump knows absolutely nothing about, and makes no attempt to learn anything about. So what do you think Wallace will call Trump out if he doesn't answer the question asked?
VMA131Marine
(4,139 posts)He's going to throw everything, including the kitchen, sink at Hillary in the hope that something sticks. I'm sure he'll accuse her of being involved in the attack in North Carolina and he'll probably go after Bill again. He hasn't even tried to reach out to people beyond his base for weeks; I don't see him starting with the last debate.
still_one
(92,204 posts)Debt and entitlements
Immigration
Economy
Supreme Court
Foreign hot spots
Fitness to be President
The format calls for six 15-minute time segments, with each 15-minute segment focusing on each of the topics.
The topics are subject to possible changes if there are any news developments before the debate.
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)The Fitness one is a potential point for him to shoot off into Bizarro world for a long while, if that is the first topic hit.
Apart from that the list is far above my expectations given the chatter that Wallace lists to starboard
MyOwnPeace
(16,927 posts)he's gonna' pull the "sick Grandma" excuse and not show up.
Really, why should he?
Seriously, given his standing in the polls, his continued way of disregarding the "norms" of campaigns and opponents, just what does he have to gain by showing up?
It would be SO much easier for him to produce some lame "rigged/fixed" excuse and he'd probably get yet another pass by a vast majority of the media - just to keep things interesting!
Sad to say that it seems to be a winning plan - and what a f**king mess we've got!!!!
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)Except Hillary will be the one knocking Trump's head off.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Nobody wants to see another one of these, with Trump either acting a damn fool like Debate 2, or being cringe-inducingly ignorant, like Debate 1.
People are sick of his shit.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)I think it might be no-holds-barred, which disturbs me
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)Anything the SNL writing team could ever even imagine.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)that is how low the bar is..
LeftRant
(524 posts)He seems highly irritated by Baldwin's impression of him. He may try to minimize what SNL can use next week. Unfortunately, he has about zero self-awareness so his attempt will leak like a sieve.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)and not watching. I think that having a 3rd "debate" is pointless, he'll just spew more crapola, and she will win.
I don't have a lot of faith in the moderator to do anything. Like when he interrupts, talks over her answer, mutters rejoinders, says "wrong" into the microphone, etc.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)How can they ignore such an important issue?
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)We haven't even heard much about immigration policy yet.
Hekate
(90,705 posts)....and the Democratic Party has a platform greatly influenced by Bernie Sanders.
It's taken care of. It's all good. Our candidate is the sane one, and that's what's on display in these otherwise meaningless exercises.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)That's why I was wishing the topic would come up. Not because Hillary hasn't addressed it, but because many voters haven't been exposed to it -- and might not realize that the Donald is a denialist.
Hekate
(90,705 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)might scare them off.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)but hard hitting questions about why and what to do, not so much.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)If Trump does not try to attack Clinton with a chair or go full on Alex Jones blubbering, pundits will call it a win for trump or at worst, a tie.
Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)lostnfound
(16,179 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)It will be hell. He'll be more vicious than ever.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)manicraven
(901 posts)I really don't think we're gleaning much from these debates because Trump basically just attacks and doesn't provide anything of substance. It feels like a waste of time, other than it reinforces that he is foolishly in over his head and revolting, and I won't be watching the spectacle. I feel sorry that Sec. Clinton has to endure this uncomfortable situation with someone ridiculously uninformed, undignified, insulting, crass, and nutty. Maybe Trump will bring up his various conspiracy theories? Who knows.
MFM008
(19,814 posts)And the chance to spew whatever he wants, what do you think?
Hekate
(90,705 posts)...like a child with a bad cold and no hanky, growl like a dog, lurch around like he's about to take a swing at someone, make faces, toss word salad, and generally behave like the badly spoiled child he is.
The sane candidate will stay calm and ignore him and whatever stunt he has lined up for the evening.
Anybody with any brains and honesty will be able to tell the difference. Our allies will feel reassured that we are not all troglodytes over here. The former elites of the GOP will sink further into despair. FOX news will declare him the winner.
And SNL will have us in stitches again.
It's all good. I have every confidence in Hillary at this point.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)He'll just let him rant.
It'll go very much like the second debate.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)to assassination of JFK
Monk06
(7,675 posts)and on and on and on for an hour and a half
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Sting him into blustering.
His bar is so low already but he can escalate the horror.
Let him flip around in his bouncy house mind.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)fox will do the best they can to make Clinton as uncomfortable as possible.
adigal
(7,581 posts)He will mention the wall.
He doesn't know any of those women who have accused him, Hillary Clinton laughed at a rape victim (She needs to address this - she left it out there last time, and this is NOT what happened.)
Benghazi
She's in office 30 years (I count about 11?? and not the same office.)
Media rigged (I'm glad it's Fox this time, because if he accuses Fox of being rigged, the dolts who watch FoxNews will be offended.)
Media in cahoots with cabals, international bankers.
Hillary belongs in jail - he WILL say this again
May call her "crooked Hillary" to her face.
Emails, wikileaks, Donna Brazile
Pay for Play, Clinton Foundation.
There. That's about it.
Oh.
Rigged.
Rigged.
Rigged.
The end.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)I foresee little change beyond further visible fraying of Trump's demeanor and vocabulary. Polls are full of terrible news, and his denials are taking al, his energy.
Is he working up the nerve to quit?
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)So whatever is said and done will have zero impact on the election. I have cast my ballot for Sec. Clinton so I for one won't be watching it.