2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMelania is a LIAR and a PLAGIARIST. why aren't they talking about that? she has NO credibility.
Instead, even the dems on A Cooper's panel are pussyfooting around her appearance, admitting, somehow, that she did a great job defending her husband
not a word about her lying about her college credentials, her plagiarism
why do they believe a word she has to say
and that consummate hypocrite, Corey L, rabidly defended her defense of her husband, somehow omitting the fact that this is EXACTLY what they're trying to crucify Hillary for doing. the dems failed, as usual, to point out the obvious irony in his impassioned defense
it's great to see him lose it, going off like a speed freak on a major tweak
TXCritter
(344 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)is your question serious?
you do realize Melanoma's (oops, I misspelled her name, just as you did!) appearance out of nowhere, I mean desperation, means that they have nowhere else to go in his defense.
she's yet another trying to defend, as they say, the indefensible
you do realize that almost every public utterance from her has been found to be false, don't you?
should that all be ignored?
thanks for playing
TXCritter
(344 posts)... that Bill Clinton is not running for president. If attacks on her are valid, attacks on him are valid.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)not big on the logic courses, I see.
it's called philosophy 101
start there
TXCritter
(344 posts)I've spent weeks arguing with people that Bill Clinton's deeds are not relevant to this election because he is not running. His spouse is.
So now I argue that Melania's deeds are not relevant to this election because she is not running, her spouse is.
And I have a logic problem?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)We will move on in the same timely fashion Corey has, NEVER. Melania has chosen to forgive Trump, Hillary has forgiven Bill and they worked through this. It is a double standard, rigged by Republicans, the same ones who has worked for voter suppression. The courtshas thrown out their efforts.
manicraven
(901 posts)They blast Hill for not dumping Bill, but excuse Melanie. Her husband has a pending rape hearing. He is on tape admitting to walking in on women who were changing. He admits to groping. He's cheated on Ivana and probably beat and raped her. Gag me. Can't wait for the election!
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)she has since said it wasn't true, but that means she was either lying then, or under oath
what a surprise.....
-Steph-
(409 posts)I didn't think she was nearly as effective as they did. She contradicted herself when she agreed that touching women without their consent is sexual assault, when just a few moments earlier she was dismissing his comments as normal. She also likened him to a teenager when he was nearly 60-years-old at the time of the sexual assault boasts.
She had the audacity to speak out against cyber bullying while shrugging off and even defending her own husband's bullying. At one point she felt the need to point out that every bad article about her is written by women, which I thought was a strange thing to say.
She was never asked about lying about her convention speech, college education, etc.
I thought the interview would only play well with his base, and at this point that is not going to do a thing for him.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)contrast that to the way they treated Hillary during the 92 campaign when she dared defend her husband
treated, mostly with contempt by the media. then they really started going after her when she was blamed for the failure of Clinton's health care initiative
then, thanks to creeps like Bossie, Scaife, Brock, Isikoff, Gerth, Schmidt, etal (the list is nearly endless) the media really went into high gear during the Whitewater debacle, and it hasn't stopped for twenty years.
July
(4,750 posts)I wouldn't be even a little surprised to learn that the "coup" of getting the nearly invisible Melania out of hiding was predicated upon an agreement that no "uncomfortable" questions be asked, a tactic to gain audience eyeballs with little downside that was likely learned from the con artist himself.
-Steph-
(409 posts)I've noticed that when Hillary pulls way ahead in the polls that CNN (and a lot of other MSM) go out of their way to try to tighten it up, or at least portray that it's tightened up. So I knew ahead of time this was going to be a real softball interview with very little substance (none as it turns out). Why else would she even do it if she didn't already have assurances it would be this way? I'm sure the Trump campaign probably laid out the ground rules for the interview.
Even still, I seriously doubt this interview did a single thing to even remotely sway votes.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)narrow road to 270, citing the most favorable polls in battleground states, ignoring the ones which contradicted his rosy trump numbers
he seemed almost excited as he waxed bonerly on the chances of trump running the fla, nc, ohio, Michigan, NH, WI, PA table
thought I saw him rubbing his hands together unctuously at the thought of a real barn burner, and the race tightening in those states, of course not mentioning Hillary's gains in AZ, GA, MO, for starters, or the fact that trump has given up in VA
-Steph-
(409 posts)One day my dad called me, after watching CNN, and asked me how come nearly all of the states are red for Trump? He said he was watching CNN and they were making it seem like he already has the 270 he needs.
My tv was muted on CNN so I did a quick rewind and they were doing just as you said.. laying out the very best, impossible, path to 270 for him. I had to explain to him that it was a dream scenario and not based on any credible, current numbers. Their tricky way of doing and wording things had my dad in a momentary panic.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)numbers - being the center of it all. If FL and NC and NH go Dem, no one will even call him up to the map
wishstar
(5,271 posts)In an earlier interview she tried to convince us he wasn't really "nasty" either. Her credibility is nonexistent and she has to be just as dishonest and stupid as he is to think she can magically erase all the evidence we have already seen and heard with our own eyes and ears that he is a mean, hateful, cruel, selfish dishonest creep.
Anderson Cooper handled her with kid gloves and wasted an opportunity to ask her about the plagiarism and lying about her college degree. Wonder if she only agreed to do the interview with him if he agreed to refrain from asking about those subjects.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Clinton News Network, hey?
gotta love them now, right, KellyAnne?
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)the way trumpsters have been lying nonstop lately
wonder if he'll be a little more reality based than his wimpy, craven predecessor
sorry, Anderson, but no more second chances. you lost all cred tonight
forever.....
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)an English first type, promise.
The woman can barely speak English. Ok...wiki says she moved to NYC in 1996.
Twenty years ago!!!
She can hardly put a sentence together.
You would think, being married to a ?ionaire, who has access to probably the best tutors money can buy, would teach her English?
Don't want to sound snarky but - geez, you are married to a real estate tycoon - with probably many many public events - charity balls (no money needed) - entertainment/celebrity events and then politics. You would think you would want to be able to communicate?
And, any decent husband who didn't speak her language would want to establish full communications.
How many languages is she said to speak? 5 ? Must be a crock of shit. If she cared enough to learn that many - she would SURELY be seeking out the best English language tutor in all of NYC
csziggy
(34,137 posts)I've given up on watching the cable news for tonight. Watching old syndicated crap.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)csziggy
(34,137 posts)So it really doesn't make a difference to me what questions she is asked.
I feel sorry for any woman who has put themselves in Trump's reach but I don't need to listen to his wives at all.
Cakes488
(874 posts)kind of real questions coming at her. As a matter of fact she misunderstood one of Cooper's questions and she answered it wrong...it was about sexual assault and what Michele Obama said in her speech. Cooper let it go as I'm sure that was required for the interview.