2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLee Atwater’s infamous “n*gger, n*gger” interview
The interesting blog Fifth Column points us to this great find by Rick Perlstein in The Nation tape of infamous Republican race-baiting operative Lee Atwater (the Willie Horton guy) describing his Southern strategy in iconic (yes, the n-word) terms.
[It's a matter of] how abstract you handle the race thing. In other words, you start out
Now yall arent quoting me on this
you start out in 1954 by saying, Nigger, nigger, nigger. By 1968 you cant say niggerthat hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states rights, and all that stuff.
And youre getting so abstract now, youre talking about cutting taxes, and all these things youre talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites
. We want to cut this, is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than Nigger, nigger.
http://americablog.com/2012/11/audio-of-infamous-lee-atwater-interview-its-a-matter-of-how-abstract-you-handle-the-race-thing.html
carolbrenner
(18 posts)Atwater died a horrible, agonizing death - and conservative ideology will soon suffer a similar fate.
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)I know, I am a cruel bastard. I feel bad saying it, but a thousand deaths are not enough for the likes of him.
Better link (in that it works): Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story
still_one
(92,372 posts)He would have never sought redemption or forgiveness if he wasn't dying at the time
What is he remembered for? Bringing racism as a legitimate campaign strategy for the republicans, and his legacy is that it has never been more part of the republican strategy as it was then
So even though at the end he sought redemption, that is not what he will be remembered for, it will be the southern strategy
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)Mary Matalin (a friend of Atwater's) told Ed Rollins:
the Bible was still wrapped in the cellophane and had never been taken
out of the package,' which just told you everything there was. He was
spinning right to the end."
His whole life story was grotesque.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater
brokechris
(192 posts)could repent of their past deeds without reading the bible.
Whether or not he truly did repent we can never know. It seems he converted to Catholicism, so likely he confessed his sins to a priest pursued that route to forgiveness.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)It was all over the news.
To hear that it was still in the shrink-wrap after he died and people were cleaning out his stuff pretty much shows his character.
brokechris
(192 posts)been a help to him. And when they packed up his room, Maitlin said there was a bible still in the package.
Just because it seems that he didn't read that particular bible, it does not mean that the bible couldn't have influenced him (he was raised Lutheran). There was a priest visiting him daily at the end--if I were speculating I would not be surprised if that priest brought a bible and studied with him.
Who cares though? All I am saying is that you don't have to read the bible or indeed have any particular religion to repent of past deeds. Whether it was genuine or not--is not for me to determine.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)what he did was immoral and an affront to god him/her/itself and begged for forgiveness. My feeling is that he was trying to forgive himself, and forget the hate he had sown.
The sad truth is that his legacy lives on. And his hate has infected me, only it is fanning the flames that burn his soul.
Someday it will die out in me. But not today.
still_one
(92,372 posts)GETTINGTIRED
(330 posts)to the trained ear....
JeffHead
(1,186 posts)They get more "abstract" every day.
Butterbean
(1,014 posts)Never knew who he was (I was 17 when he died), never knew what "the southern strategy" was. Holy shit. That interview is just............................disgusting. I can't even.
David Zephyr
(22,785 posts).
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)While seething after the 1988 election, I said that I hope Lee Atwater dies a slow, painful, agonizing death. Barely two years later, I got exactly what I wished for.
When I think of how Atwater's life was abruptly cut short, I'm reminded of the scene in "Ghost", when the spirits of death rose up out of the shadows and swept Willie Lopez's evil soul away forever.
LeftInTX
(25,519 posts)I'm still waiting for the divorce...it ruined the northern, moderate Republicans and changed the entire party into a bunch of "Dixicrats".