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KentuckyWoman

(6,689 posts)
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:02 PM Oct 2016

Wow... it must be getting bad....

The born again evangelical right wingnut contingent of my family has completely shifted focus. They've stopped praying for a Trump win and started prayer that Hillary will get right with the Lord before she takes office.

I kid not.

There is also a conspiracy theory from one particular sister in law's kinfolk that the devil put Trump in as the Republican nominee so he could be sure to throw the race for Hillary. (as in the 2 are in cahoots).

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Wow... it must be getting bad.... (Original Post) KentuckyWoman Oct 2016 OP
K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2016 #1
Glad to see - I am not the only one with "crazy" kinfolk! Laf.La.Dem. Oct 2016 #2
Hillary is Methodist greymattermom Oct 2016 #3
Methodist? Turbineguy Oct 2016 #15
I just can't say Hedley SCVDem Oct 2016 #25
Here you go. CentralMass Oct 2016 #28
If you belong to a Christian church that teaches what Jesus actually said workinclasszero Oct 2016 #26
There are a lot of people who live their religion. Even Hortensis Oct 2016 #35
Dominionists? "Jesus would never stop throwing up". SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #42
Yeeees exactly as planned underpants Oct 2016 #4
WOW . . . . Iliyah Oct 2016 #5
Yes,it's true, Digger Oct 2016 #12
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2016 #16
Yes, **you**have that. The Democratic Party, on the other hand... JHB Oct 2016 #54
Yes, the devil did put in Trump as the nominee. herding cats Oct 2016 #6
They like to blame the devil for the things they do. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #37
Interesting. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #7
Better yet, stay home and forget the GOP down-ballot candidates, too Hekate Oct 2016 #44
What to tell you ignorant and arrogant Christian relatives vlyons Oct 2016 #8
HA.....the BEST Christian: Gabi Hayes Oct 2016 #65
sharing this great comment from the BB vid Gabi Hayes Oct 2016 #66
the looney left thinks Hillary is a right-wing evangelical OKNancy Oct 2016 #10
Yup, Hillary is an actual Christian, as in follows the teachings of Christ. nt SunSeeker Oct 2016 #20
She will be the first religious president since Carter, for sure. joshcryer Oct 2016 #22
I swear it seems like almost half the country is fucking nuts... Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #11
"I swear it seems like almost half the country is fucking nuts..." Hayduke Bomgarte Oct 2016 #24
TPTB don't want an educated populace TexasBushwhacker Oct 2016 #31
After a lifetime in public education I am convinced Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #58
I agree TexasBushwhacker Oct 2016 #61
that's what this guy A Lincoln thought Gabi Hayes Oct 2016 #67
Yes, I feel that way a lot lately whathehell Oct 2016 #38
I agree Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #60
Nothing wrong with encouraging further education. n't. whathehell Oct 2016 #64
To be perfectly honest, a lot of us are "praying" that Hillary gets out of campaign mode early. Buzz Clik Oct 2016 #13
Like flipping a switch SCVDem Oct 2016 #34
She's a lifelong Methodist bluestateguy Oct 2016 #14
He's probably not given it any thought, one way or another. sarge43 Oct 2016 #18
He loves evangelicals.... BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #41
Trump thinks he IS God! n/t radical noodle Oct 2016 #40
This ^^^^ treestar Oct 2016 #57
Run with it, Build that Bridge and they will cross it bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #17
Maybe God is really a Democrat... orwell Oct 2016 #19
Sounds more like cannabis_flower Oct 2016 #21
Well, I see you are a Southerner OldRedneck Oct 2016 #23
Bless you KentuckyWoman Oct 2016 #68
I sure hope mine get to that point of view. MH1 Oct 2016 #29
Hey maybe God allowed drumpf to run so... workinclasszero Oct 2016 #30
Trump is a gift from god safeinOhio Oct 2016 #39
Don't pray SCVDem Oct 2016 #32
Yes! Voting is what counts! manicraven Oct 2016 #43
That's good news. I'd MUCH rather people were praying than oiling their firearms. Hekate Oct 2016 #45
When the stupid turns, it goes all the way over the cliff. Rex Oct 2016 #46
I pray for Hillary, too. Terra Alta Oct 2016 #47
I went down the rabbit hole last night following links on a post by a family member Lucinda Oct 2016 #48
Satan didn't put Trump in the race at Hillary's request Retired George Oct 2016 #49
lucky I don't have crazies in the fam unless you count my Bush Repubs wordpix Oct 2016 #50
Lol I also have encountered people who think it's all a grand plot MoonRiver Oct 2016 #51
Some Evangelicals believe that Trump will bring on the Apocalypse (second coming of Christ) grossproffit Oct 2016 #52
k&r thank you again saidsimplesimon Oct 2016 #53
As a Methodist, she has a strong belief in social justice and Ilsa Oct 2016 #55
Well, I think a lot of families are going to have a very interesting Thanksgiving. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #56
k and r..nt Stuart G Oct 2016 #63
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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. If you belong to a Christian church that teaches what Jesus actually said
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:46 PM
Oct 2016

The religious right figures you are another branch of ISIS

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. There are a lot of people who live their religion. Even
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 03:09 PM
Oct 2016

if there are a lot more who do not, the real ones are real and imo deserve respect. Many radiate the calm serenity of people who never wake up in the middle of the night bothered about big discrepancies between what they have done and what they should do.

Anyway, this is really, really good news. If some feel a need for a "transition" justification, fine. But getting "right with the lord" is a megastep forward from doing the work of Satan. Was it that they really saw her for the first time at the debates?

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. WOW . . . .
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:12 PM
Oct 2016

A fellow evangelist co-worker of a friend who is a t-rump supporter recently said "I don't know now . . we have a pervert and a liar running for president.

Hee hee . . .

Digger

(478 posts)
12. Yes,it's true,
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:38 PM
Oct 2016

we DO have "a pervert and a liar running for president". The other candidate is a classy, intelligent woman.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
54. Yes, **you**have that. The Democratic Party, on the other hand...
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 04:46 PM
Oct 2016

Yeah, I know Digger beat me to the punch by 3 hours, but it'd be criminal to pass up a straight line like that.

herding cats

(19,566 posts)
6. Yes, the devil did put in Trump as the nominee.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:18 PM
Oct 2016

In the sense that the Republicans who voted for him were evil bigots and racist.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
8. What to tell you ignorant and arrogant Christian relatives
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:29 PM
Oct 2016

Tell them to open their red-letter Bible and do what Jesus says to do, and stop acting like they are better Christians than everyone else.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
66. sharing this great comment from the BB vid
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 07:56 AM
Oct 2016

+Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian Betty, gotta tell ya, you remind me of my high school World History teacher(forgive me but she was a stoned FOX) and a bit of a snob cuz she was edjadicated in Frawnce and she wrote in this script writing that just reeked of, 'hey, can I help if I'm way better and smarter than all of you put together,' but don't get me wrong, she wasn't offensive or anything, just an obviously protected person from day one of her life

But I was so impressed cuz snobbish though she was, I guess, at the orphanage I was using clippers to trim grass from the public sidewalk outside the wall, and Lo I see her crossing the street prancing towards me, smiling and making me feel extra special that she would even bother to acknowledge me outside of class. She was waiting for her car to be repaired, yep it was a Peugot and the only garage in town for them. I was 15 at that time, and she was, oh, I'd say early 20s. She used to single me out and talk, yep small talk, OMG, I felt one day I'd just melt intothe floor, she made me feel so privileged and wonderful, and it mattered then cuz, we, from the home and all with major dysfunctionals.

McGuire was her name and she liked to toss out to class speaking her French, lotsa profanity, oddly enough, she was like mischevious, and man she sounded so sexy, and I tried to not think like that...but Biology ruled seemed like, mentally anyway. Weird was she was married to some really goofy guy(sorry, I'm likely a bit unfair on that cuz I wanted her all to myself)I mean how could I stay on the string of her good wishes to me with him occupying her attention. I don't think she felt pity or anything, but she offered if there was anything I needed and stuff, to let her know, she was just my first really older type more mature female, dare I say closest ever female friend, never a lover but we did talk and stuff and she was fond of teaching me what females were about and all, it's like she knew I was interested in the fairer sex, but really naive.

After that year, in Summer 1966 she moved back to France but before she left she really put it on thick about my great qualities and potentials and any girl would love to be with me as a friend or any kind of contact, wow, talk about inflating my ego, I suppose it's why I had a crush on her, though unneeded and I was really sad to lose her friendship, but I will never forget her, as in another I was crushed when she was gone, cuz she was like the best friend I ever had, and she made it clear she'd never place me in a compromising position to do with much other than light hugs, she was my friend. I wish everyone, guys at least could have had a close friend like her, we talked about everything.

She was also really the smartest person I ever knew, and after a bit, she didn't come off as primadonna-ish. I hated guys and their catcalls when they saw us talking.She was above all that Holla. BTW,what's a vajeene?And how'd I miss that part? I will view again for sure. Betty you are a laugh riot. Thanks from the bottom of my vajeene...uh, do I or can I have a vajeene?lol

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
10. the looney left thinks Hillary is a right-wing evangelical
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:33 PM
Oct 2016

so, hey, you could use that argument.
Actually she is a strong religious do-gooder somewhat like Jimmy Carter.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
22. She will be the first religious president since Carter, for sure.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:36 PM
Oct 2016

It's one reason black people love her.

Blue Idaho

(5,051 posts)
11. I swear it seems like almost half the country is fucking nuts...
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:37 PM
Oct 2016

We need at least two years of free college for all citizens. The first class they should all take is Logic and Critical Thinking. The Walmart generation can't be trusted with the fate of the last best democracy on earth in their hands.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,208 posts)
31. TPTB don't want an educated populace
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:53 PM
Oct 2016

that can think critically. A shrinking middle class is working great for them. They like the bottom of the pyramid to be deep, letting us fight for crumbs amongst ourselves instead of turning on THEM.

Blue Idaho

(5,051 posts)
58. After a lifetime in public education I am convinced
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 05:50 PM
Oct 2016

That education is the only hope for a better America. A well informed public with a firm grasp of history can turn the tide against any enemy foreign or domestic.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,208 posts)
61. I agree
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 06:04 PM
Oct 2016

I was a public school teacher for 9 years. I come from a family of educators. It makes me CRAZY when I hear about high stakes testing and voucher programs to take money out of public schools.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
67. that's what this guy A Lincoln thought
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 08:00 AM
Oct 2016

a virtual quote machine

contrast him with to what his party has devolved into

from Lincoln to Godwin

whathehell

(29,069 posts)
38. Yes, I feel that way a lot lately
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 03:24 PM
Oct 2016

and it scares me. I like your idea about critical thinking and logiv, but I:m wondering if it might be better to teach it in high school, maybe in senior year. This ignorance is really hurting us as a country.

Blue Idaho

(5,051 posts)
60. I agree
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 05:57 PM
Oct 2016

Students should be taught critical thinking, logic, and media literacy from a very early age. But I still like the idea of expecting students to continue on in their schooling. Especially if it's at least two years of public community or state college.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
34. Like flipping a switch
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 03:03 PM
Oct 2016

Professionals are good at that.

The dinner showed her ability to adapt from competition to diplomacy.

Basket of adorables? Awww.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
23. Well, I see you are a Southerner
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:39 PM
Oct 2016

Granted, Kaintuck is a border state but it still qualifies you as a Southerner.

As a fellow Southerner (Wilkinson County, Mississippi, great-great-garndson of slave owner), I empathize with you about your family.

For those of you who are not blessed to be Southerners, you need to understand that EVERY Southern family has at least one funny uncle, twisted sister, or batshit-crazy cousin. Some of us have entire branches of the family tree who have six toes on one foot and are the product of cousin marriage. I know. BELIEVE me . . . I know.

The theory about Trump and the devil is an interesting one I have not heard before . . . I'll run it by my biblethumping brother-in-law to see what he says about it.



KentuckyWoman

(6,689 posts)
68. Bless you
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 11:39 AM
Oct 2016

Oh how I needed your post on this fine Sunday morning.....awakened at 4am by a call from one of the twisted kinfolk to try and bring me to Jesus. Assumption made that since I think food and medicine rank higher on the list of things to buy than bombs I need more Jesus.

She's one of the 6 toe on each foot variety. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for a reminder of perspective.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
29. I sure hope mine get to that point of view.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:48 PM
Oct 2016

Most of 'em ain't talking much right now. (Not about Trump, anyway.)

There's one that's still on the Trump train for sure but I'm writing that one off as a hopeless case.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
30. Hey maybe God allowed drumpf to run so...
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:50 PM
Oct 2016

So the people who call themselves the religious right would be exposed as total frauds and no followers of Christ at all, huh?

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
32. Don't pray
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 02:53 PM
Oct 2016

Vote!

This race will not be decided by invisible sky beings.

God is not an excuse for ignorance and hate.

Hekate

(90,755 posts)
45. That's good news. I'd MUCH rather people were praying than oiling their firearms.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 04:13 PM
Oct 2016

I used to pray for Dubya, too. Something along the lines of "Please may he be stricken with sudden enlightenment and the full knowledge of what he is doing."

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. When the stupid turns, it goes all the way over the cliff.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 04:16 PM
Oct 2016

I knew fundys would abandon this guy, he has a cult of followers and that is it.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
47. I pray for Hillary, too.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 04:23 PM
Oct 2016

I'm not praying for her to get right with the Lord, because I believe she already is. Instead, I'm praying some RW nutcase with a gun doesn't try to take a shot at her. That is my biggest fear about Hillary becoming President.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
48. I went down the rabbit hole last night following links on a post by a family member
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 04:27 PM
Oct 2016

at FB, and ended up in the same place you talk about. Some of these "prophets" on youtube were hysterically funny, but the comments sections were horrifying.

One guy tripped up and lost his place in the script - or as it was supposed to be, his direct line to God, as he was speaking. He actually stopped, held his hand to his ear after he tripped up, and started the line again - and said "I'm just hearing this now" Considering everything he was saying was already supposed to be a live feed from God, it was a hoot.

 

Retired George

(332 posts)
49. Satan didn't put Trump in the race at Hillary's request
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 04:29 PM
Oct 2016

He decided to transform into a human and run himself! (Any demonologist will tell you: the Devil has ALWAYS had problems with hair.)

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
50. lucky I don't have crazies in the fam unless you count my Bush Repubs
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 04:32 PM
Oct 2016

They early on said they're not voting for Trump and my bro is voting Hillary. Not sure about his wife and grown kids, tho

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
51. Lol I also have encountered people who think it's all a grand plot
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 04:36 PM
Oct 2016

between the two. And this is from people on the left!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
55. As a Methodist, she has a strong belief in social justice and
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 05:32 PM
Oct 2016

treating her neighbor as she would like to be treated, and helping her fellow citizens whenever she can. It's likely a huge point of philosophical connection between her and her Jesuit-educated VP pick.

I'll put her Christian values up against Franklin Graham's any day, and Trump isn't within measuring distance, he's so amoral.

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