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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:43 PM Oct 2016

Sanders Will Keep Pressure on Clinton

Sen. Bernie Sanders, a loyal soldier for Hillary Clinton since he conceded the Democratic nomination, told the Washington Post he “plans to push liberal legislation with like-minded senators with or without Clinton’s support if she is elected— and to aggressively oppose appointments that do not pass muster with the party’s left wing.”

“Sanders said he and other senators have started plotting legislation that would achieve many of the proposals that fueled his insurgent run for president, including a $15 federal minimum wage, tuition-free public college, ending “mass incarceration” and aggressive steps to fight climate change.”

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https://politicalwire.com/2016/10/24/sanders-will-keep-pressure-clinton/

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Sanders Will Keep Pressure on Clinton (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP
Help from Sanders supporters is instrumental to her upcoming victory. She won't forget that. TonyPDX Oct 2016 #1
That is absolutely correct. emulatorloo Oct 2016 #6
He has been in Congress for twenty five years, this is where the laws start and where Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #2
Shumer has confirmed Bernie will get an important Hortensis Oct 2016 #29
Does he think he can pass a bill without the House? First try applying pnwmom Oct 2016 #3
But Trump said he could n/t moonscape Oct 2016 #45
Clinton will push liberal legislation whether Bernie likes it or not emulatorloo Oct 2016 #4
Chill, he's just shoring up his base Shivaraja Oct 2016 #11
Ok emulatorloo Oct 2016 #12
You and me both! arthritisR_US Oct 2016 #21
As am I. bettyellen Oct 2016 #22
Give it up. So Bernie despises Democrats Hortensis Oct 2016 #31
I love Bernie. emulatorloo Oct 2016 #57
Far left? Pushing for policies that most of the country supports is far left? JRLeft Oct 2016 #60
Already apologized to Emulatorloo for misunderstanding. Hortensis Oct 2016 #61
Thank you emulatorloo. I agree this narrative is not especially helpful right now. Maru Kitteh Oct 2016 #18
In other news, Bernie Sanders will be Bernie Sanders nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #5
that's why we love him! Shivaraja Oct 2016 #9
And we wouldn't have it any other way! Plucketeer Oct 2016 #30
Sanders should realize zenabby Oct 2016 #8
Charles Blow, in today's NYT, frazzled Oct 2016 #10
He should have spent more time talking about the GOP congress because a lot of bettyellen Oct 2016 #23
I fully expect that, it's his job to do that... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #13
Like Sanders said right from the beginning and he is good for his word. Sunlei Oct 2016 #15
It would be so awesome if we could FINISH the election before we go back to refighting the primary Maru Kitteh Oct 2016 #16
You got THAT right!!! DFW Oct 2016 #17
Clinton will sign the most progressive legislation Sanders can get. That is known. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #24
Maybe Bernie should save this for after the election rbrnmw Oct 2016 #25
It's better to motivate the left to vote for Clinton before the election than after. nt Gore1FL Oct 2016 #34
Exactly! I have no doubt sec'y Clinton is happy to hear him say this. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2016 #36
we need a Democratic Senator in that seat. stonecutter357 Oct 2016 #26
Sanders Will Keep Pressure on Clinton. LenaBaby61 Oct 2016 #27
Noting "left wing" expression did not come from Sanders, but is a flour-sifting result of Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #28
Sanders lost the primaries - or didn't you notice CajunBlazer Oct 2016 #33
Your grapes seem unusually sour Shivaraja Oct 2016 #42
My grapes seem unusually sweet to me CajunBlazer Oct 2016 #46
Your whine is not our wine Shivaraja Oct 2016 #53
If she can either keep your small majority happy... CajunBlazer Oct 2016 #54
I prefer to think that she'll keep her word to the left Shivaraja Oct 2016 #56
Go Bernie! zentrum Oct 2016 #35
And he will be in sync with other Progressive Groups that will do the same Larkspur Oct 2016 #38
Yeah, thats the ticket for the Left! More toxic! BobbyDrake Oct 2016 #41
Sanders will keep his name in the news ahead of his book release in 3 weeks. BobbyDrake Oct 2016 #39
Hm. NurseJackie Oct 2016 #40
Keep Remarks Positive Please McKim Oct 2016 #43
You're right - but this tread should not have appeared in the first place CajunBlazer Oct 2016 #47
Exactly. I see what they're doing. NurseJackie Oct 2016 #55
He would have been wise to wait until securing a majority. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #44
Best thing for Bernie is to... Mike Nelson Oct 2016 #51
It's important that Hillary implements the agreed platform, and then use that as the platform for OnDoutside Oct 2016 #52
yes we did Shivaraja Oct 2016 #58
I like the fact that Bernie will be pushing for the implementation of the platform, but it is OnDoutside Oct 2016 #59
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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. He has been in Congress for twenty five years, this is where the laws start and where
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:46 PM
Oct 2016

he should place his attention. I am hoping he is going to find others to work with in order to get the laws passed and then on to Hillary to sign.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Shumer has confirmed Bernie will get an important
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 02:50 PM
Oct 2016

chairmanship if we regain a majority in the Senate, and Bernie's response indicated that he would accept--not an automatic given, given the traditional schmoozing, fund-raising duties of chairmen, which he'd no doubt "redefine."

emulatorloo

(44,192 posts)
4. Clinton will push liberal legislation whether Bernie likes it or not
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:48 PM
Oct 2016

She has a long record of doing so. Bernie primary supporter here, he needs to stop with the innuendo

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. Give it up. So Bernie despises Democrats
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:04 PM
Oct 2016

(which means he actually despises most of his aware, kick-ass Democratic supporters). Whatever! Because, reality is, he's pulling from the left just as we all are. Even those of us who don't feel he's the right stuff for the oval office should admit that that has worked very well for our party and appreciate their contributions to the success we're all striving for.

I suggest working on tolerance and acceptance, which are supposed to be our peculiar virtues (as opposed to the deplorables and their hapless partners on the right)--as well as on closed primaries.

Bernie's been insulting Democrats for a half century. He's NOT going to change, but he and his far-left followers of course fit in our widely diverse Spandex coalition, many of whom badmouth Democrats just as badly.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. Already apologized to Emulatorloo for misunderstanding.
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:47 PM
Oct 2016

Just re-read--if you care to, and don't bother feeling you need to apologize. It's fine.

Maru Kitteh

(28,343 posts)
18. Thank you emulatorloo. I agree this narrative is not especially helpful right now.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:26 PM
Oct 2016

I am deeply appreciative of his efforts on behalf of her campaign, I LOVE some of the great things he is saying and doing to help HRC and Dems up and down the tickets.

I FULLY support his efforts to promote the election of strong liberal Dems and forward, progressive change in this country - but I believe this expression was somewhat unfortunate on his part.

zenabby

(364 posts)
8. Sanders should realize
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:52 PM
Oct 2016

that Hillary is not the enemy here. It is good that he will fight for what he believes is the right thing to do, and push legislation - but he could have done that with Obama. It is unlikely that he will get exactly what he wants because the country is not there. I know there is a lot of passion, but it is about 25% of the country (50% repubs don't like his ideas, and half of dem party is not too keen on it - as evidenced by primary). So it's not a matter of pushing the most leftist of ideas because of your passion. This is democracy and other people's opinions, whether or not they are as intense or articulate as you - still counts.

For anyone expecting Hillary to adopt all of Bernie's ideas on day 1 - it will end in disappointment. She will be a compromise candidate (imho), but will move the needle left for all the issues.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
10. Charles Blow, in today's NYT,
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:02 PM
Oct 2016

gave Sanders a little spanking in his column, for starting and pressing the whole "rigging" business and contributing to de-legitimatizing Clinton—something that certainly will persist into her presidency.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/24/opinion/clintons-specter-of-illegitimacy.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

My guess: as the legitimately elected POTUS, she will do what she thinks is right, and he, as one of 100 senators, will do what he thinks is right. As it should be: that is how our government is supposed to work. And then majority rules.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
23. He should have spent more time talking about the GOP congress because a lot of
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 02:00 PM
Oct 2016

People misread his vague remarks and think Dems are their enemies now. That sucks.

Wounded Bear

(58,726 posts)
13. I fully expect that, it's his job to do that...
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:08 PM
Oct 2016

One of Obama's problem is that the far left kind of left him hanging and didn't support him enough. Having Bernie on board to do that should help immensely, especially if we can get him and Warren some key chairmanships.

Hey, I was a Bernie supporter in the primaries, too. Now I'm with Her, and him.

Maru Kitteh

(28,343 posts)
16. It would be so awesome if we could FINISH the election before we go back to refighting the primary
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:18 PM
Oct 2016

again.



DFW

(54,447 posts)
17. You got THAT right!!!
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:22 PM
Oct 2016

Let Bernie start in with this kind of talk AFTER the election. The primaries are over, even if some of his supporters (and about 65% of Republicans) wish they could start primary season all over again.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. Clinton will sign the most progressive legislation Sanders can get. That is known.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 02:13 PM
Oct 2016

Sanders, put on your leading shoes and get some great progressive legislation on her desk to sign.

I'll be pushing Sanders to get it done and holding Clintons feet to the fire. The only way to do it.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
27. Sanders Will Keep Pressure on Clinton.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 02:32 PM
Oct 2016

And I have absolutely NO problem with this. Hillary HAS gone further to the left on several key issues and I thank Bernie for speaking with Hillary and for her deciding to MOVE onto more progressive ground on these issues. Bernie is a fighter, and I fully expect him to fight to the end, but we need Bernie and he needs us (D).

However, I don't want to get too far out there with an agenda where it begins to start too much disunity within the party, and as President, Hillary does have every right to start in on her agenda, as she will be the president. ALL things in GOOD time. All things in good time.

Now, if Hillary has a Democratic Senate to work with, and we can chip away at the large number of tea-baggers in the Congress, then that's another story all together, and maybe we can implement several more progressive ideas into the mix a bit earlier which I'm sure will benefit Americans all across this country.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
28. Noting "left wing" expression did not come from Sanders, but is a flour-sifting result of
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 02:45 PM
Oct 2016

Political Wire and the WaPo. Important to some who consider MSM's notion of "left wing" as anything more radical than Dwight David Eisenhower.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
33. Sanders lost the primaries - or didn't you notice
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:08 PM
Oct 2016

I expect Hillary to get things done in Washington. If that means compromising with the Republicans to get legislation passed, so be it. However, since Sanders supporters don't want him to compromise anything they may not be pleased.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
46. My grapes seem unusually sweet to me
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 04:28 PM
Oct 2016

And they will make the wine the country will drink after the election.

 

Shivaraja

(58 posts)
53. Your whine is not our wine
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 06:25 PM
Oct 2016

I'll be happy when Trump loses, and when Clinton keeps her commitments to the left.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
54. If she can either keep your small majority happy...
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 06:36 PM
Oct 2016

... or she can keep the vast majority of the people who are neither on the far left nor the far right happy, guess which one she will choose. Then again you will be far happier with Hillary in the White house then suffering under Trump for four years.

 

Shivaraja

(58 posts)
56. I prefer to think that she'll keep her word to the left
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 08:38 PM
Oct 2016

is it your intention to convince me otherwise? is that really your play?

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
38. And he will be in sync with other Progressive Groups that will do the same
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:22 PM
Oct 2016

Watched Meet the Press a few weeks ago and Heather McGhee from Demos.org said that after the election and afterr HRC wins the Progressive groups will not make the same mistake they did after Obama won in 2008. They will pressure HRC so she finds it toxic to turn right or towards Wall St.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
41. Yeah, thats the ticket for the Left! More toxic!
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:25 PM
Oct 2016

Because being so toxic now that no one wants to work with them clearly isn't enough.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
39. Sanders will keep his name in the news ahead of his book release in 3 weeks.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:24 PM
Oct 2016

Obvious publicity stunt is obvious.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
43. Keep Remarks Positive Please
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:37 PM
Oct 2016

Let's keep remarks positive, please. The primary is over now. We have to work together. This entire divisive thread should disappear.
I am an ardent Bernie supporter who is voting for Hillary. Don't kick me in the face, please.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
47. You're right - but this tread should not have appeared in the first place
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 04:32 PM
Oct 2016

You'll have to talk to your fellow Sanders supporter about that.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,149 posts)
44. He would have been wise to wait until securing a majority.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:38 PM
Oct 2016

His timing is always a bit off. And as he isn't a Democrat, doesn't seem to truly grasp the state of the Union.

Mike Nelson

(9,970 posts)
51. Best thing for Bernie is to...
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 05:06 PM
Oct 2016

...increase his Senate standing with a take-over and more progressive Democrats!


OnDoutside

(19,974 posts)
52. It's important that Hillary implements the agreed platform, and then use that as the platform for
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 05:34 PM
Oct 2016

the 2018 midterms i.e. We did what we said we would do.

If that doesn't happen, the Democrats will be wiped out again.

 

Shivaraja

(58 posts)
58. yes we did
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:20 PM
Oct 2016

Bernie supporters will toe the line and trust that everyone negotiated in good faith.

If not? Well, one election at a time...

OnDoutside

(19,974 posts)
59. I like the fact that Bernie will be pushing for the implementation of the platform, but it is
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 04:59 PM
Oct 2016

vital for the moderate Democrats like Hillary that the platform must be implemented, to prove to the Millennials that the Democrats are straight up. However, it's important for the Sanderistas to understand that if the Democrats don't win the Senate AT LEAST, then it will be another "shut down the government" by the Republicans.

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