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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:05 PM Nov 2012

‘Israeli-Occupied’ Congress No More

By ABRAHAM KATSMAN11/26/2012

For those of us in the pro-Israel camp who were disappointed by the reelection of President Barack Obama, there’s more bad news.

While there is no dearth of analysis of the impact of the US presidential election on the America-Israel relationship, Israel’s military and diplomatic strategies or on Israel’s upcoming elections, analysis of the Congress that has just been elected has been in short supply.

And while the precise impact of this election is difficult to predict, there is one inescapable conclusion: The incoming 113th Congress to be sworn in this January is materially more left-leaning and materially less pro-Israel than the outgoing 112th.

Especially on the Democrats’ side.

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http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=293538

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‘Israeli-Occupied’ Congress No More (Original Post) Purveyor Nov 2012 OP
What a noxious turd of an article. A neocon using ZOG langauge, and it goes down hill from there nt geek tragedy Nov 2012 #1
One thing I have a hard time understanding... dennis4868 Nov 2012 #2
Yep. But what the heck - garthranzz Nov 2012 #8
great points! dennis4868 Nov 2012 #12
Likud is what's bad for Israel. nt longship Nov 2012 #3
John Michael Greer - bravely - has taken on the subject.... chaska Nov 2012 #4
Shouldn't this go in the I/P forum? democrattotheend Nov 2012 #5
This has more to do with US policy than Gaza. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #7
With the budget crisis what it is Sadiedog Nov 2012 #6
Re Steve Rothman no_hypocrisy Nov 2012 #9
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #10
Try not to salivate too enthusiastically at the prospect. nt Codeine Nov 2012 #11
I see the AIPAC crowd attacked another DUer for stepping out of line. Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #13
Boo goddamn hoo. Arkana Nov 2012 #14
And where has the no questions asked support for Israel gotten Israel? yellowcanine Nov 2012 #15
Some People JiminyJominy Nov 2012 #16
Do you care to name names leftynyc Nov 2012 #17

dennis4868

(9,774 posts)
2. One thing I have a hard time understanding...
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:32 PM
Nov 2012

is that he implies that Obama is bad for Israel. The facts say something else entirely different. Obama has been one of the best presidents Israel could ever hope for.

garthranzz

(1,330 posts)
8. Yep. But what the heck -
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:13 PM
Nov 2012

since when did neocons or Republicans care about facts?
W. - let's see, 9/11, the intifada, the Hezbollah disaster in Lebanon, strengthening of Iran, Hamas in Gaza - oh, but he was so good for Israel because he wouldn't talk to Arafat.

And I think Obama's speech in Egypt during his first term, his response to Libya, and the Arab Spring, make dialogue possible.

That's not counting all the quiet support he's given.

Thank you!!

chaska

(6,794 posts)
4. John Michael Greer - bravely - has taken on the subject....
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:58 PM
Nov 2012

of Israel this week. It's a must-read for both friends and foes of Israel.

And as I always say, John Michael Greer is the smartest man on the web.

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2012/11/in-twilight-of-empires.html

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
5. Shouldn't this go in the I/P forum?
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:06 PM
Nov 2012

I thought posts about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict had to go there (except late breaking news) because of how divisive the issue is here.

Sadiedog

(353 posts)
6. With the budget crisis what it is
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:32 PM
Nov 2012

I`m afraid that I would be more than happy if aid to other Countries was decreased rather than give up more in social programs here at home. It irks me that this is never on the table yet Social Security is. Am I missing something. Also I am talking not just about aid to Israel.

no_hypocrisy

(46,215 posts)
9. Re Steve Rothman
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:37 PM
Nov 2012
As one example of this election’s negative impact on Israel, Rothman’s loss may be particularly tough. A 16-year Congressman, Rothman served on the House Appropriations Committee and its Subcommittee on Defense, which apportions how much US military aid goes to Israel.

He was known to have spearheaded efforts behind the scenes to increase aid for Israel’s most critical defense programs and promote an ever-closer military alliance between Israel and the US. He was defeated in the primaries by Democrat and Israel critic Bill Pascrall in a campaign focused on Rothman’s support for Israel – or as his growing Arab constituency put it, “loyalty to a foreign flag.”


Clarification: I worked on Bill Pascrell's primary campaign with the WEDO women (Women Empowered Democratic Organization of Passaic County). We did countless hours of phone-banking, canvassing, and getting the vote out in several municipalities in both Bergen County and Passaic County. We did not "go there", meaning Israel, the growing Muslim communities in Paterson and Passaic. We stressed the hard work that our congressman has done and how he's delivered much federal aid and help to our communities. We introduced him to new towns in the reconfigured district. Even when there was a voter who didn't like Pascrell, he'd personally call them to find out what he could do better or differently.

Rothman decided to buy TV air time to run commercials about questioning Bill Pascrell's dedication to Israel, not Pascrell. (The republican candidate for the 9th district, Shmuley Boteach, followed Rothman's playbook and also unsuccessfully lost the debate and the election.) Pascrell was critical of Israel, but it wasn't wholesale; it was about particular issues that should be addressed without being called antisemitic or anti-Zionist.

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Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
13. I see the AIPAC crowd attacked another DUer for stepping out of line.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:21 PM
Nov 2012

Carry on, comrade.

On the topic at hand: GOOD!

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
14. Boo goddamn hoo.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:24 PM
Nov 2012

This country could stand to be a little less pro-Israel and a little more pro-human rights.

Breathlessly defending everything Israel does because they're Israel isn't good foreign policy.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
15. And where has the no questions asked support for Israel gotten Israel?
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:45 PM
Nov 2012

Few of the neocons want to answer that question. IMO it has mainly encouraged hardliners in Israel and thwarted the peace process.

JiminyJominy

(340 posts)
16. Some People
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:21 AM
Nov 2012

In this country in positions of power seem to have more of an allegience to Israel than to the USA.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
17. Do you care to name names
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:54 AM
Nov 2012

Or are you content to hide behind the pathetic and cowardly fox news-like "some people say"?

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