Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 06:36 PM Oct 2016

It appears that Comey broke FBI policy.

A tweet from Norm Ornstein to noted Harvard law professor Jack Goldsmith:

Jack, is Jeff Toobin correct that it is FBI policy not to release controversy information within 60 days of an election?

Norman Ornstein added,
Jack Goldsmith @jacklgoldsmith
Exactly. 😀 https://twitter.com/normornstein/status/792126822678925312

40 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
It appears that Comey broke FBI policy. (Original Post) kstewart33 Oct 2016 OP
Can he be charged with attempting to influence the outcome of a Presidential election? n/t Tess49 Oct 2016 #1
Let's hope NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #2
Hope this comes back to bite them in the ass. n/t Tess49 Oct 2016 #8
Of course workinclasszero Oct 2016 #26
No, just fired nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #18
That's something, but not good enough. nt Tess49 Oct 2016 #20
Ending his career will have to do. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #33
Well, that would be a horrible fate. I'd rather go to jail than spend a minute around Giuliani. nt Tess49 Oct 2016 #34
Actually he could be. Lord Magus Oct 2016 #36
The Attorney General needs to requrier Comey to publicly explain way he broke with FBI policy awake Oct 2016 #3
Absolutely. Maybe this will be Comey's undoing. n/t Tess49 Oct 2016 #5
Comey CYA BlueStateLib Oct 2016 #4
I genuinely don't feel like Comey is a partisan hack. He is the one who refused to sign the okaawhatever Oct 2016 #16
O for fucks sake Cosmocat Oct 2016 #22
IMHO I don't see him doing this for the GOP. I think the answer will come out that it was some okaawhatever Oct 2016 #23
H E H A D N O C A S E A G A I N S T H I L L A R Y Cosmocat Oct 2016 #25
He can be a hack without being a hack for the GOP. I genuinely believe he totally f'ed up and okaawhatever Oct 2016 #28
Blackmail? Cosmocat Oct 2016 #32
I heard that the constant harping from trump and congress was getting under Comey's skin BlueStateLib Oct 2016 #24
He is protecting his own credibility with Congress, marybourg Oct 2016 #30
he behaved like a partisan hack with that promise Skittles Oct 2016 #40
I think he wanted to appear not to be partisan for HRC. JRLeft Oct 2016 #17
First Comey resignation in November rockfordfile Oct 2016 #6
Yes, and he could have just given them a heads up with no details to cover himself. Confidentially BSdetect Oct 2016 #7
he may have violated policy, but he also saved his butt from perjury charges 0rganism Oct 2016 #9
Why would Comey be charged with perjury? He wouldn't have been lying but waiting until the anneboleyn Oct 2016 #10
Agreed. n/t SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #11
Yes, I'm not getting this perjury talk elmac Oct 2016 #15
She doesn't just need to get a new FBI director. Lord Magus Oct 2016 #35
What hope do any of us have when the FBI goes rogue and becomes a criminal org itself? Augiedog Oct 2016 #12
The country survived Hoover, MoonRiver Oct 2016 #13
I actually think it will be shortly after she becomes President-elect. This is if he's not fired. George II Oct 2016 #14
I hope so. MoonRiver Oct 2016 #19
Uh-oh, someone's going from the frying pan and into the fire. ffr Oct 2016 #21
Comey should resign immediately. humbled_opinion Oct 2016 #31
NO SHIT Skittles Oct 2016 #39
Dec 1969 #
 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
2. Let's hope
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 06:51 PM
Oct 2016

And I have a feeling that someone in the FBI with ties to Trump and his ilk were sitting on this and took it to Comey now to try to impact the election.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. Of course
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:15 PM
Oct 2016

Comey's BS letter was the republicans 'October Surprise'!

Didn't one of drumpf's kids say they had something up their sleeve a day or so ago?

And here it is! Don't tell me that Trump didn't know ahead of today about this crap!

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
36. Actually he could be.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:49 PM
Oct 2016

Probably won't though, Dem officials would be too scared of being accused of "politicizing" things even though Comey politicized it.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
16. I genuinely don't feel like Comey is a partisan hack. He is the one who refused to sign the
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 09:30 PM
Oct 2016

surveillance order when Ashcraft was in the hospital. He thought the spying under Bush was unconstitutional. I believe the story is in Wiki or some other source. He also was questioned by Congress as to whether he thought the Attorneys General firings under Alberto Gonzales' were politically motivated and he said "yes".

I'm really wondering what Comey's position on this is. He's gone from being Republican to an Independent probably due to Trump.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
22. O for fucks sake
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 09:51 PM
Oct 2016

This asshat was knee deep in whitewater.

Just because he had a spasm of humanity in one moment doesnt mean he isnt a clinton hating hack.

He either a moron or didnt know the cosequences of going out of procedure and the bullshit he spewed 4 months ago and wrote today ir he purposely teed up the gop and media to slam hillary.

He isnt a moron.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
23. IMHO I don't see him doing this for the GOP. I think the answer will come out that it was some
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 09:58 PM
Oct 2016

sort of blackmail or something like that. He wasn't afraid to burn the GOP in the past when the stakes were much, much higher. Besides, he easily could have charged Hillary and had a much greater effect on the campaign. These things don't add up. I think we'll find it's something else, maybe something coming from a third party.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
25. H E H A D N O C A S E A G A I N S T H I L L A R Y
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:10 PM
Oct 2016

That he didnt set himself up for a career ending disastrous effort to try to prosecute her doesnt mean he isnt a clinton hating hack.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
28. He can be a hack without being a hack for the GOP. I genuinely believe he totally f'ed up and
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:22 PM
Oct 2016

interfered with the election. I think he sucks and I would throw him in jail if I could. That being said, Comey can be doing this for ego, blackmail, pride, who knows. He hasn't shown that kind of party loyalty in the past. I still think his motivation is something other than loyalty to the GOP. I also wouldn't be surprised If some hackers from Russia played a part in all this.

Claiming he is just a partisan hack for the GOP closes the door on a third party being involved. When Hillary is President, we need to have a Senate investigation into the letter Comey wrote. I think that may be the next Watergate.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
32. Blackmail?
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:59 PM
Oct 2016

You are making it WAY more complicared than it is.

Did you watch his hatchet job on hillary four months ago?

No one had a gun to his head there, he has very real and genuine disdain for her and bill, the standard gop clinton hate

Again, HE WAS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR FOR THE WHITEWATER SENATE COMMITTEE INVESTIGATION. that is what he cut his teeth on. He did the dirt on them 20 years ago, hes doing it again.

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
30. He is protecting his own credibility with Congress,
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:33 PM
Oct 2016

since he "promised" them he'd continue to investigate should other information come to light.

He made a decision to value his reputation with Publican committee chairs above protecting the integrity of the electoral process. Had he done otherwise, he might have been forced to resign by these Publicans, once the e-mails came to light after the election.

In my opinion, that would have been the honorable thing for a Publican appointed by a Democrat to do.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
17. I think he wanted to appear not to be partisan for HRC.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 09:33 PM
Oct 2016

The Republicans had been killing him on that.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
7. Yes, and he could have just given them a heads up with no details to cover himself. Confidentially
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 06:58 PM
Oct 2016

telling them that there was no suggestion of foul play in his opinion and to keep this quiet. And send to all committee members - not just republicans.

If he really had to release any news that is.

So he found out that morning and releases a statement without checking sources etc etc Sounds like a potential Putin puppet.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
9. he may have violated policy, but he also saved his butt from perjury charges
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 07:01 PM
Oct 2016

i think, long term, this will actually help HRC win.
1. nothing new or incriminating was released/reviewed/whatever
2. imagine if Comey had followed FBI policy and sat on the info, then it leaks while HRC is serving as POTUS. the GOP-led house would almost certainly push for perjury charges against Comey, and try to find a way to tie HRC to his alleged violation of law in deference to FBI political policies.
3. it adds to the "crying wolf" ambiance that has surrounded the email accusations of late.

i do think HRC needs to get a new FBI director and i'd bet Comey's gotten damn tired of it all by now anyway.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
10. Why would Comey be charged with perjury? He wouldn't have been lying but waiting until the
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 07:08 PM
Oct 2016

investigation was solid enough/complete enough to comment instead of sending out a vague, clearly deliberately inflammatory letter.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
15. Yes, I'm not getting this perjury talk
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 09:14 PM
Oct 2016

how can anyone be charged with perjury for something that happens after the fact even if he did say he would inform the committee of any new investigations.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
35. She doesn't just need to get a new FBI director.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:47 PM
Oct 2016

Hillary needs her AG to file an indictment against Comey for his repeated violations of the Hatch Act.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
13. The country survived Hoover,
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 08:32 PM
Oct 2016

and he was much worse than Comey. I think Comey will resign shortly after Hillary takes office.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
19. I hope so.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 09:34 PM
Oct 2016

Bottom line is he needs to go. He has proved himself to be a partisan hack and there is no place for him in her administration.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
31. Comey should resign immediately.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:42 PM
Oct 2016

and apologize for this reckless nonsense. These are most likely duplicate emails, the theater here is to try and disrupt Hillary's momentum.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»It appears that Comey bro...