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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 12:00 PM Oct 2016

FBI director mum on possible probe of Trump-Russia relations

This is what is arbitrary about Comey's decision. He sends a letter to Congress announcing that the FBI is reviewing new emails that even he has not seen, but refuses to confirm or deny an investigation into Russia's efforts to influence the election in favor of Trump citing a policy not to comment on pending investigations.

If Comey was being consistent, and had disclosed the status of investigations into Trump, then the letter would make more sense. Hopefully, some in the media would ask Trump whether he would support transparency and disclose any pending investigations into Trump's connections to Russia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/us/politics/comey-clinton-email-justice.html?_r=0

It was the latest example of a sometimes strained relationship between the Justice Department and Mr. Comey, who — on issues of race, encryption, policing and, most notably, the Clinton investigation — has branded himself as someone who operates outside Washington’s typical chain of command.

The letter rankled Mrs. Clinton’s supporters in part because Mr. Comey has been circumspect in his remarks about another federal investigation, this one involving allegations of Russian meddling in the election. American officials believe that Russian intelligence agents are behind the hacking of Democratic National Committee emails, which have embarrassed the Clinton campaign.

Senior Democrats have called on the F.B.I. to investigate whether any of Donald J. Trump’s aides are colluding with Russia. Some of his aides have ties to Russian interests, but they have denied any wrongdoing.

While Mr. Comey told Congress last month that he would not confirm the existence of any investigation into people associated with Mr. Trump, he said he felt compelled to discuss details of the Clinton investigation because it involved “exceptional circumstances where the public needed information.”


Last month, Comey refused to answer congressional questions regarding whether the FBI is investigating any of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s former or current campaign workers for connections with top Russian officials.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/28/fbi-director-mum-probe-trump-russia-connection/

FBI Director James Comey would not confirm whether the bureau is investigating any of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s former or current campaign workers for connections with top Russian officials.

The FBI director was questioned about any possible investigation during a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, and declined to say whether agents have sought to speak with or interviewed Mr. Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort or his deputy Rick Gates. He also fended off comparisons between the bureau’s investigation into Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s private email system, saying the high level of detail released to the public about the Clinton investigation was disclosed due to the exceptional circumstances of the case.

“Why shouldn’t the American people have the same level of information about your investigation of those associated with Mr. Trump?” asked Rep. Jerrold Nadler, New York Democrat, referring the Clinton investigation.

I’m not confirming that we’re investigating people associated with Mr. Trump,” Mr. Comey said. “In the matter of the email investigation it was our my judgment, my judgment, the rest of the FBI’s judgment was that those were exceptional circumstances where the public needed information.”
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FBI director mum on possible probe of Trump-Russia relations (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2016 OP
And he's lying it was the "rest of the FBI's judgement. bettyellen Oct 2016 #2
And he refuses to answer whether he is either investigating Trump campaign or not. LisaL Oct 2016 #5
Without a warrant? lonestarnot Oct 2016 #10
Well of course he is. LisaL Oct 2016 #3
And Russian interference marybourg Oct 2016 #6
Donald Trump Remarks on NATO Trigger Alarm Bells in Europe TomCADem Oct 2016 #9
So lets see Andy823 Oct 2016 #7
Comey Would Argue That Doing So Violates The Hatch Act... TomCADem Oct 2016 #14
The more I learn about this story the more pissed off I get at Comey. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #8
We will all officially learn that Trump was Putin's puppet Mr. Ected Oct 2016 #11
Some one posted yesterday a link to Wellstone ruled Oct 2016 #12
Right here teach1st Oct 2016 #13
Thank you, Wellstone ruled Oct 2016 #15
Double standard Gothmog Oct 2016 #16
FBI Would Argue Disclsure Compromises Investigation.... TomCADem Oct 2016 #19
So Russia trying to rig our elections are not exceptional circumstances? Rex Oct 2016 #17
How is Trump-Russia not "exceptional circumstances of case"? Hortensis Oct 2016 #18

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
5. And he refuses to answer whether he is either investigating Trump campaign or not.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 12:08 PM
Oct 2016

But on the emails, he writes a letter to congress before he even got a chance to obtain the emails.
Makes me sick.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
3. Well of course he is.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 12:06 PM
Oct 2016

For whatever reason he doesn't feel obligated to inform congress about that.
Why would that be?

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
6. And Russian interference
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 12:09 PM
Oct 2016

in our presidential election isn't an exceptional circumstance?

But a possible misclassification of one or two now irrelevant secret documents out of hundreds of thousands handled by the State Dept. IS an exceptional circumstance?

Not in my world.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
9. Donald Trump Remarks on NATO Trigger Alarm Bells in Europe
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 12:20 PM
Oct 2016

This is what is amazing. Even Trump's public remarks provide clear evidence of why Russia might have a strong interest in trying to sway the election:

Here is Trump back in June:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/donald-trump-remarks-nato-trigger-alarm-bells-europe-n613911

Donald Trump set off alarm bells in European capitals Thursday after suggesting he might not honor the core tenet of the NATO military alliance.

Trump said the U.S. would not necessarily defend new NATO members in the Baltics in the event of Russian attack if he were elected to the White House. He told The New York Times in an interview published Thursday that doing so would depend on whether those countries had "fulfilled their obligations to us" in terms of their financial contributions to the alliance.

"You can't forget the bills," Trump told the paper. "They have an obligation to make payments. Many NATO nations are not making payments, are not making what they're supposed to make. That's a big thing. You can't say forget that."

Trump's comments were perceived by some analysts as carte blanche for Russia to intimidate NATO allies and a potential harbinger of the alliance's collapse were Trump to be elected.


Here is Trump last week:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-takes-issue-with-clintons-criticism-of-putin/2016/10/27/b6dee84a-9c85-11e6-b552-b1f85e484086_story.html

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio — Donald Trump on Thursday criticized rival Hillary Clinton for being too tough on Vladimir Putin, once again raising eyebrows about the Republican candidate’s relationship with the Russian president.

Speaking at a rally in Springfield, Ohio, as he kicked off a daylong swing through the battleground state, Trump took issue with Clinton’s criticism of the Russian leader, who has been denounced in the West for his military assertiveness and anti-democratic tendencies.

“She speaks very badly of Putin, and I don’t think that’s smart,” Trump told a crowd of thousands, noting that Russia has nuclear weapons.

“How do you speak so badly of someone?” he asked.


Andy823

(11,495 posts)
7. So lets see
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 12:10 PM
Oct 2016

A person running for president of the USA, could have connections to Russian, and Putin, but this idiot doesn't think the public needs to know about "those" connections?

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
14. Comey Would Argue That Doing So Violates The Hatch Act...
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 01:48 PM
Oct 2016

Yet, Comey was more than happy to do so with respect to Hillary Clinton as noted by a former Bush White House counsel:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/30/1588609/-Former-Bush-Ethics-Head-Files-Complaint-Against-Comey-Alleging-Potential-Violations-Of-Hatch-Act

In a terse Op-Ed published in today’s New York Times, Richard Painter, the chief White House Ethics Lawyer in the Bush Administration from 2005-2007, explains why he filed a Complaint yesterday against FBI Director James Comey with the FBI’s Office Of Special Counsel, which investigates possible ethical violations within the Bureau. In particular, Painter explains why Comey’s inexplicable actions this week may warrant prosecution for abuse of power under the Hatch Act.

I have spent much of my career working on government ethics and lawyers’ ethics, including two and a half years as the chief White House ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush, and I never thought that the F.B.I. could be dragged into a political circus surrounding one of its investigations. Until this week.


Painter, a former George W. Bush, Marco Rubio and John Kasich supporter, explains that had the Bureau made a similar public disclosure in its connection with the ongoing investigation ties between a certain presidential candidate and hacking of Americans’ emails by the Russian government, it would have equally constituted a breach of longstanding policy and an abuse of power. Specifically, the Hatch Act bars the use by a government official of his position to influence an election. Notably, whether one has an “intent” to do so is irrelevant:

The rules are violated if it is obvious that the official’s actions could influence the election, there is no other good reason for taking those actions, and the official is acting under pressure from persons who obviously do want to influence the election.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
11. We will all officially learn that Trump was Putin's puppet
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 12:23 PM
Oct 2016

In retrospect. The proof will be made sometime in 2018 or 2019 and Republicans will say, "Why dredge up yesterday's news?" and the media will give it short shrift.

We are so effing close to toppling the delicate balance we have with our allies by propping up Trump, and the media is 100% complicit. This does not bode well for the future.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. Some one posted yesterday a link to
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 12:54 PM
Oct 2016

Republican Congress persons blocking FBI from probing Trump-Putin ties,help please.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
15. Thank you,
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 02:28 PM
Oct 2016

wow,typical GOP Election Stunt. Nixon,Regan,Bush,and now Trump. In each case,the Agencies were used to carve out special favors.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. So Russia trying to rig our elections are not exceptional circumstances?
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 04:07 PM
Oct 2016

Really? What a GOP lackey, changing his party affiliation only makes him look that much more guilty imo.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. How is Trump-Russia not "exceptional circumstances of case"?
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 05:14 PM
Oct 2016

Does he mean it hadn't blown up into a major POLITICAL weapon being used against one candidate?

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