2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum*****BREAKING MORNING CONSULT POLL***** CLINTON 52 TRUMP 47
https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/MCModeStudyFinalToplines.pdfThat poll was taken during Peak Comey.
But I want something even more fresh.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)http://elections.dailykos.com/app/elections/2016/office/president
Hopefully, turnout will turn OH blue too. Latinos may make the difference in Texas. They are already turning Fl, AZ and NV blue.
livetohike
(22,144 posts)molova
(543 posts)Please let NV pollsters be egged on their faces.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)Thank you!
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)National vote will finish.
Democrats Ascendant
(601 posts)All due respect, there is going be a very substantive third candidate vote.
I can't see how Hillary breaks 50%.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Clinton 50
Trump 46
Johnson 3
Stein 1
The third party number will continue to fall. 4% for a 3rd party vote is still pretty good historically. This scenario puts Clinton right at 50% and is very realistic.
Interestingly this also could be the third time a Clinton wins the presidency with less than 50% of the vote.
That was a saw all during the 90s, how Bill never broke 50% ...
They are going to be jackasses either way, but it would be nice to get to 50%.
padfun
(1,786 posts)Tell them that Trump didn't get 50% of the R primary votes.
They say he got the most votes ever for a primary, but he also got the most votes against him in a primary.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)have billions to pour into 20 min infomercials like Ross Perot had. But the "not-a-majority" talking point rallied conservatives and spread their narrative in the media very well; that doesn't need to happen again.
Then again, had 9/11 not happened, Bush II would've continued to be dogged by the "less-than-plurality" or "not-the-highest-vote-getter" and he'd had been tossed in 2004. Of course then, had Gore not been denied the WH, he'd also have potentially dealt with the "not-a-majority" because he also won a plurality rather than majority.
mondonhill
(18 posts)we can do it! Good vs. evil
calimary
(81,267 posts)I believe that! But EVERYBODY has to turn out and vote - either NOW, when early voting is possible, or next Tuesday.
If Democrats turn out, we win. It's as simple as the numbers. The numbers are with US. WE have the bigger numbers of voters and the demographics are shifting in OUR favor. If only we seize it, and put those numbers to work for us. Seriously! All we have to do is get up off our asses and go vote. President Obama would add - "don't boo. VOTE." Don't sit and complain and get depressed. Get yer ass out there and VOTE. And THEN you can come back, sit back down, and complain some more. BUT VOTE!!!!
I can guarantee - you won't like the results if you don't.
voted yesterday-been having nightmares,not joking
calimary
(81,267 posts)I don't have nightmares. But I'm not getting much (if any) sleep lately, either! TONS of Toss-'n'-Turn... It's freakin' MISERABLE!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Woohoo!
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I mentioned this a few days ago. As election day nears the polling companies push undecideds to declare. That's why the combined percentage for the two major candidates rises sharply. It will show up in other polls also.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The time to take a side rapidly approaches!
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)nm
Lucky Luciano
(11,256 posts)Fox was spouting some bullshit about an impending indictment with regards to the Clinton Foundation overnight that pushed USDMXN to 19.55 almost.
My binary outcomes are USDMXN to 18 on a Clinton win and 22 on an orangefuck win. When USDMXN is at 20, the election is a toss-up under that model. Before the first debate it got to 19.9. On oct 25, it was around 18.5. So the move to 19.55 was very bad for Hillary's odds.
Since 4:00, $MXN has retreated to 19.23 - a very nice move for HIllary's implied odds of winning.
I would like to see 18.5 again though - I think we get congress too with that.