2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCNN article on 6 ways Trump could win.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/politics/donald-trump-path-to-270-scenarios/index.htmlI haven't really analyzed the 6 maps yet, but I'm sure all are highly unlikely.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)involves flipping at least one blue state, and basically running the table in all the "toss ups."
Interesting speculation, I guess, if the horse race is what you're promoting. Reality says it probably won't happen.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)And I'm not promoting anything. I just thought the article was worthy of discussion.
As unlikely as it is to happen, there are ways in which Trump could just barely reach 270. Unlikely is not the same as impossible.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)sorry about that. It's the CNN website that is "promoting" various speculative paths to victory for Trump.
Steve Kornacki does this about every day at least once on MSNBC.
I'm hoping for 350+ myself. I'm greedy.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Now I'm in that 320-330 ballpark. I've never felt more anxiety leading up to an election, nor have I ever wanted a landslide as badly as I do this year. And I'm far from being a huge Clinton fan. But everything Donald Trump (and his bloc of support) represents is so atrocious, so harmful (particularly for women and persons of color) that he needs to be annihilated. Leonard Pitts said it well in a recent article of his.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)I'm not sure about how feasible given current polling.
Michigan and Wisconsin seem key.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)He has to run the table, take all tossups and turn at least one deep blue state red.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)Turned out all that speculation was for naught.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)1. Trump could carry every state Mitt Romney won in 2012 (including North Carolina) and flip the Barack Obama states of Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Nevada and New Hampshire.
2. This is Trump's dream scenario, because it cracks Clinton's blue wall of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania -- which he hasn't been able to win in polls.
3. Three smaller, fiercely independent states could tip from Clinton's column to Trump's if she loses many of the Republican-leaning voters who just aren't comfortable with Trump -- not to the GOP nominee, but to Libertarian Gary Johnson. Bjut he still needs both Florida and Ohio
4. All of a sudden, the West could become much more competitive -- with Trump securing Arizona and having a chance at flipping Florida, Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico.
This scenario would also lock up Florida for Trump, and would allow him to forget about New Hampshire:But he still needs Ohio and Florida
5. If the Northeast loves Trump
Forget Maine's Second District -- perhaps Trump can flip the whole state. And he could take New Hampshire with him.
In this scenario, Trump would vastly outperform expectations among suburban, middle-class voters -- and win the election's biggest prize of all: the Philadelphia suburbs: he still needs ohio and Florida though.
6. If African-American turnout drops
There are signs in the early vote numbers from North Carolina, Florida and Georgia that fewer black voters (who typically back Democrats) are turning out compared to previous election cycles -- resulting in whiter electorates.
That would help Trump in those three states -- and could boost him in Michigan, too, where much of the Democratic vote comes from African-Americans in cities like Detroit and Flint: Still needs Ohio and Florida
stopbush
(24,396 posts)1. Hell freezes over
2. Jimmy Hoffa walks into a bar in Detroit
3. Mike Pence renounces Christianity
4. A Sasquatch is captured alive
5. Rudy Giuliani shuts the fuck up
6. Jesus returns
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)qdouble
(891 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)sometimes more than once. Very speculative, and increasing unlikely.
April Lee
(14 posts)It seems to me like a lot of people are trying dissect every last poll for some hidden meaning. Yes, this election is surprisingly close, but yes, Hillary will still win. I would rather focus on the better America she is going to build when reality become official.
Renew Deal
(81,860 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)The second Florida is called for Clinton, if that happens, we'll know it's over. I'm glad I live on the west coast, while FL is on the east coast. Of course, if it's super close, it won't get called early.
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)It's going to be close, but I think Hillary will take AZ. Latinos make up 30% of the population here, and I recently read that 83% of Latinos in AZ have registered to vote this year. I volunteered this weekend to GOTV for Hillary because I believe she has an excellent chance of winning AZ.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I'm hoping like hell that she wins AZ and OH. If that happens, she'll top 350 electoral votes. We could even be looking at 400+.