Something is still brewing (oppo)

[NeverDump]

The guy that Wilson said to watch just tweeted.

@TheRickWilson:
I'll say it for the 10th time:
1. Media has the two story leads.
2. Neither was the story from yesterday.
3. I don't control timing.

@coalsmom: @TheRickWilson READ https://twitter.com/noclador/status/794140936754368512

@TheRickWilson: @coalsmom I'm aware.



@noclador: Tomorrow it will be 4 days to the #USElection = two BRUTAL revelations about @realDonaldTrump will come out. After which: exile or prison.


Then there is this.

@TrueFactsStated: 1. Many of you have heard of a bombshell coming out about Trump. A source who I know & trust has informed me of TWO such bombshells.

@TrueFactsStated: 2. My understanding is that the media knows about both of these and has been seeking to corroborate them before going with the story.

@TrueFactsStated: 3. The first bombshell is that US and British Intel have a video of Trump with two prostitutes. Both US and British media have this story.

@TrueFactsStated: 4. The second allegation is that Trump has paid for up to a dozen abortions for various women.

[Lifelong Protester]

1. If there are bombshells,

let's get them out there. Now!

[Laf.La.Dem.]

2. PLEASE - LET THEM BE TRUE!!!

The "abortions" story would kill him

[karynnj]

29. Not really - Trump surrogate Sarah Huckabee Sanders was speaking on MSNBC before Melania's speech

She claimed that his stronger than any previous nominee's prolife position was one of his strongest positions. When it was pointed out that he once was pro choice, she coyly responded that he changed .. and in the right direction.

Remember the whole prodigal son meme with GWB. This just amps up the contrast between the wicked Trump ... and the current Trump who found salvation and is 100% against abortion. Same with the prostitutes - unless it was within the last few years - it won't count.

Now, if either of these (or variations) were found on a Democratic male candidate -- they would have enormous problems.

[mopinko]

32. depends on the age of the prostitutes.

even if they are 18, if they look younger, it will shore up jane doe. that will be bad.

[karynnj]

37. I concede there - and that may be his predilection. It could and obviously should be even more

damning than the Access Hollywood.

[mopinko]

51. also

depends on whose orgy it is. if it is epstein-

[Hortensis]

86. Slimey trash both, but if they could get us the senate

and a few state legislatures, and say even 20 house seats, the nation could splash around in this swamp with my disgusted blessing.

[emulatorloo]

41. Depends on dates of abortions. If last couple years that's a problem. Prostitutes 2013

As to prostitution video, the claim made is that Russia has all footage from trumps hotel suite while he was there for Miss Universe 2013. That's not very long ago.

@noclador: #Trump spent a week in #Russia during the 2013 Miss Universe contest. Of everything he did in his suite that week the Russians have video.

[CTyankee]

71. doubtful those abortions would be recent...I don't think the guy can...well, ya know, do what he

used to do...if you get my drift..

[malchickiwick]

93. He probably buys that tiny blue pill by the truckload.

Poor Melania

[calimary]

105. Welcome to DU, malchickiwick!

I feel bad for Melania. When I heard she was 46, I started worrying for her. That's pushing her toward her sell-by date.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

108. SHS is a sucker (Suckabee?) and Donald J tRump is a salesman. . . nt

[livetohike]

3. I always thought there would be a "paid for abortions" story. Time is running

out. His stance on abortion is the only thing keeping Evangelicals interested.

[PearliePoo2]

4. Holy fuck...that should do it but...

I'll believe it when I see it. But then again, "Hope springs eternal".

[getagrip_already]

31. How about... I'll believe it when YOU see it - pthkt, uck, phuchkt.....

I don't think I could get over watching him have sex. I need brain bleach just thinking about it.

[triron]

6. Who is Thomas Theiner?

[emulatorloo]

11. Fascinating stuff. Thanks for posting

[joeybee12]

12. I think this is BS. Why?

Because these days the media doesn't bother to corroborate. The just run with anything.

[emulatorloo]

15. Something this explosive, they would indeed corroborate. Especially WAPO, NYT, networks

Cable news may be another story

[Ligyron]

21. Plus, they don't want to give Dump an excuse for a lawsuit later. n/t

[emulatorloo]

30. Yes n/t

[ProudProgressiveNow]

23. +1 nt

[Garrett78]

19. When it's Clinton-related.

When it comes to Trump, the media is all about due diligence and responsible journalism.

How crazy is it that Clinton's server is big news, while the fact that Trump faces a lawsuit for raping a child is a non-issue? What madness!

[getagrip_already]

34. they do when they know trump will sue them six ways to sunday n/t

[Tom Rivers]

16. "exile or prison"

yeah, i seriously doubt it's THAT big of bombshell, if there's even one at all.

even if a story does come out that damages him, i expect it will quickly be blunted by the fbi/wikileaks/putin or some other dark actor stepping up at the last minute to try and swing things his way. these fascists aren't going to go away that easily and they aren't going to stop trying to get trump elected, that's why we need to continue to GOTV as early and often as we can.

[Blue Idaho]

28. Unless he was caught with a dead girl or a live boy

I doubt the "exile or prison" hyperbole.

[regnaD kciN]

36. That line is enough to make me very skeptical…

That would require solid evidence of a major felony carrying heavy jail time. Soliciting prostitutes would be bigly embarrassing, but only a misdemeanor. And paying for abortions is perfectly legal.

[emulatorloo]

46. There's also an allegation he sold out to Russia in Sept '87

@noclador: July 1987: #Trump visits #SovietUnion
Sept 1987: #Trump spends $94k for ads demanding #US should abandon its allies… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/794260619939741700

[MountainMazza]

17. IMO...."Trump mafia" will never let it out...

Even if it is there. That man has long tentacles.

[NeverDump]

18. Ukranian writer

Theiner is a Ukrainian writer.

Could be BS. But the stuff that Wilson predicted does seem close to the surface. Albeit a bit slowly

[regnaD kciN]

38. That makes me even more suspicious…

Given his ties to Putin, and Manafort's working for pro-Russian separatists there, I would think the Ukrainian media would be invested in bringing Trump down by fair means or foul -- including rumors that turn out to be baseless.

[Ardoewaan]

20. Not sure what to think of it

However, it's best not to count on octobre suprises, bombshells or silver bullets.

Hillary has run a campaign on her own strengths, and she has a strong ground campaign. If a bombshell comes out, all the better, but she does not really need it.

[Garrett78]

26. She doesn't, but I would still welcome it.

For one thing, a landslide for Clinton is good for the Senate and House races. It's also good for the post-election narrative. Secondly, I think it would help temper the potential post-election chaos.

[musicblind]

131. Clinton has the presidency, this is about the Senate.

And the Senate is extremely important, it is make or break for the Supreme Court. Plus, every house seat we can get is one less weapon that can be used against a Clinton presidency.

I am personally devastated about the Senate right now. I didn't just want to win that, I wanted at least 55 seats. I wanted to get rid of Burr, my Senator, and replace him with the outstanding Ross.

Anything can help us. I'll take ANYTHING at this point if it means more Senate and House seats.

Plus, my anti-LGBT governor is only down 1 point... that is too close for comfort.

[NeverDump]

27. Interesting add'l tweets

@noclador: #Trump spent a week in #Russia during the 2013 Miss Universe contest. Of everything he did in his suite that week the Russians have video.


@noclador: July 1987: #Trump visits #SovietUnion
Sept 1987: #Trump spends $94k for ads demanding #US should abandon its allies… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/794260619939741700

Adding:
@noclador: As the @FBI has abandoned its job as the #US' counterintelligence agency, here is a hint what will break… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/794168179614420992

(Reply)
@peter_cazar: @noclador @FBI @realDonaldTrump Trump was in Moscow that day. At the invitation of Intourist (i.e., the KGB)


Adding. Click the link to view the pic he attaches.

@noclador: #Trump #TrumpServer #AlfaBank
#Russia #Mafia #Mogilevich
#Ukraine #Firtash
#Manafort https://twitter.com/noclador/status/793264868161970176/photo/1

[getagrip_already]

35. I'd call it a draw if comey stays out of it....

but Id gladly take a trump take-down.

[erglerbergler]

39. Regarding

Regarding

@TrueFactsStated: 3. The first bombshell is that US and British Intel have a video of Trump with two prostitutes. Both US and British media have this story.

There has been a story going around on twitter (not from this particular source) that Trump was "compromised" by Russia on a trip to Russia, and it involved an orgy... also a mention of some "nasty details" that the author did not repeat

Some of the replies have hinted that the prostitutes were perhaps underage.

[NeverDump]

49. Check this out

@noclador: #Trump spent a week in #Russia during the 2013 Miss Universe contest. Of everything he did in his suite that week the Russians have video.

[Motley13]

83. they would use that to blackmail him if he (God forbid) became Prez

They don't want to mess up his chances, they can use him.

[MyNameIsKhan]

53. Well why would russia give this video out, unless our Intel has access to this... CIA needs to get

this out again this would need authorization at highest level...

[Tom Rivers]

60. what if the trump russian sex tape was recovered by former CIA operative...

evan mcmullin! and that is how rick wilson has all this supposed information.

lol, i doubt it, but if true... mind blown!

[MyNameIsKhan]

64. Well I doubt anything is out there, this kind of stuff would have come out after Comey and is

election ending, think about Trump having orgy with underage girls..

[calimary]

117. Welcome to DU, erglerbergler!

Wouldn't surprise me. Especially the one about Trump being "compromised" by Russia on a trip with some nasty stuff going on, of which you can bet they had a room full of spies involved and a boatload of photos and audio tape. I doubt anyone could have foreseen that he'd be in this position now, but seems to me they'd want an advantage with a big-talking, blustering American they'd already sussed out for his weaknesses. That's why Putin has already played him like a violin.

I suspect they felt they could use him for something later. The whole "useful idiot" thing. And he sure fits the bill.

[piechartking]

42. Hope it comes and demoralizes Repubs

I'd like to have a shot at the house

[JHan]

43. The only upside:

The email bruhahaha will stop making headlines. Hopefully it will cause Hugh Hewitt to flipflop - again.

His supporters will continue to not care.

Folks, imagine for a minute, Hillary accused of just 1/4 of what donald trump has actually done. Just think on that for a minute..

[Willie Pep]

44. I was thinking either paid abortions or ties to organized crime. nt.

[calimary]

121. Oh my! Welcome to DU, BOTH of you - Willie Pep, and JHan too!

I HOPE this comes out. Whatever hurts Trump at this point will make me happy!

And JHan, I freakin' HATE that smug-ass Hugh Hewitt! I HOPE to see that smug smile wiped off his face next Tuesday night!

[LonePirate]

45. Repubs and R-leaning NPAs don't care about these things if a Repub does them.

See David Vitter for an example.

These items, if reported, might move the race a point or two, but won't have much of an effect. People aghast by his morality were already against him. Religious leaders have already given him a pass for sexual assault and adultery so these items won't change their minds.

[BainsBane]

47. Only the abortions will matter

And that will be hard to confirm.

[workinclasszero]

54. It will be interesting to see how the religious right

justifies their candidate paying for abortions if these stories are true.

I mean they already justified Trumps sexual assaults against women so I suppose they will come up with some BS excuse.

[getagrip_already]

63. or maybe forcing the woman to have them... n/t

don't know where this could go in terms of back stories. Wilson and company have had weeks to prep this out.

[BainsBane]

66. First it needs to be credibly reported

Which may not happen.

[regnaD kciN]

103. From my experience, rabid pro-lifers…

…have no problem with abortion -- when it's THEIR teenage daughter who needs one.

[vi5]

68. No, abortions wouldn't matter to them.

As I stated upthread, if they actually cared about abortions they wouldn't be so enthusiastically supporting a guy who until recently was vocally pro-choice. They'll say they care but it's more important that they get someone who hates minorities, women, and Democrats than it is someone who is pro-life.

[workinclasszero]

84. Yes I agree

[NeverDump]

55. This guy is Tweeting again

Maybe good vodka. Hell if he is correct we should crowfund some booze for him.


@noclador: As #Trump's 1987 #SovietUnion trip will be news soon, @michaeldweiss' look at #KGB honeytraps/blackmail is... useful
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/30/the-epic-honey-trap-a-classic-case-shows-just-how-far-moscow-will-go.html

[anamandujano]

136. What a story!

[Metric System]

56. The abortion thing jives with Liz Mair's hints about Trump's non disclosure agreements with women.

[still_one]

59. This would have come out already if they were going to come out

By the end of the day tomorrow the news cycle is over, and no one is going to pay attention to the news over the weekend, barring a major natural event, or terrorist attack

[getagrip_already]

69. not true...

a friday dump is THE most effective time. All the weekend news shows will cover it non-stop. It is on auto-pilot until monday morning where it could get a new pop.

[still_one]

70. I meant if it doesn't come out by the end of the day Friday, it isn't going to happen

I probably didn't word it very well

[getagrip_already]

73. no problem, I agree fri is optimal, but monday

would still put an ick on tuesday. not as effective, but still tilts the table the wrong way for him.

[still_one]

75. Personally I think Monday would be too late, but that is just my 2 cents, and it won't

even buy you a cup of coffee

[murielm99]

74. And I'm still waiting for Fitzmas. n/t

[NeverDump]

77. All of this would explain

The aggregate of all this info would explain why he is unwilling to criticize Russia at all.

[Charlotte Little]

78. Just saw this...

Kurt Eichenwald ‏@kurteichenwald 34m34 minutes ago
Coming up tomorrow in @Newsweek: One of my most important stories so far pertaining to the election.


Rick Wilson retweeted it, so I think this may be it. Well, one of the oppo drops, anyway.

[MyNameIsKhan]

88. kurteichenwald Stories have done little but impact on Cuban population, probably HRC for few votes

So I do not know what this bombshell is...

[steventh]

89. Looking forward to Newsweek bomb

I'm hoping Rachel will have a preview of the story tonight. I'm hoping it's the abortion story. Because his supporters don't seem to mind his abuse of women. Abortion news would blow him up real good.

[calimary]

123. Welcome to DU, steventh!

You make a rather solid, if sad, point. His supporters just don't seem to care about the abuse of women. If they did, none of this FBI/Comey shit would lure them back in. That Billy Bush episode would have been the deal-breaker regardless what happened afterwards.

[Motley13]

80. He wanted Marla to have an abortion

& she wouldn't, so that is why Tiffany is here.


He is a total hypocrite.

[AllyCat]

82. Ridiculous what he has said and done so far

are not bombshells. Hope this is true, but I think we need to plan that it is not.

[PasadenaTrudy]

85. Just saw this on twitter

July 1987: #Trump visits #SovietUnion
Sept 1987: #Trump spends $94k for ads demanding #US should abandon its allies.
apnewsarchive.com/1987/Trump-U-S…

[regnaD kciN]

92. So what?

You're allowed to visit a place and have opinions supporting it without it being treason.

Plus, for most people, the U.S.S.R. of the 1980s and today's Russia are not equivalent, if only because one was Communist (i.e. eeeeeeeeeevil) and the other isn't.

[Mime-Is-Money]

90. Cmon folks, this ain't gonna happen...

and if it does, it's most likely too late in the game to impact the race. The crap from the FBI is just now making an impact on polls after 6 days of overexposure by the media.

Let's focus on the ridiculously awful things that we do know about the guy that will lead to his defeat :

1) Drumpf bragged about gross sexual advances where he grabs women by the crotch
2) Drumpf mocked a reporter with a disability
3) Drumpf publicly berates women by calling them slobs, pigs, flat, fat, Miss Housekeeping, etc, etc, etc.
4) Drumpf thinks he's welcome in female dressing rooms even if the occupants are underage
5) Drumpf on numerous occasions called Latinos rapists, criminals, killers, etc. and believe he supports Latinos by posing with taco bowls
6) Drumpf is continuously called out for discriminating against minorities and is the overwhelming choice for white supremacists
7) Drumpf has actively campaigned to block immigrants of a particular religion that make up a quarter of the globe's population
8) Drumpf encourages gun owners to take matters in their own hands if his opponent is elected

and on, and on, and on. This is just off the top of my head.

We have plenty of ammo to expose and embarrass the fraud, let's stop wasting time on and falling for unsubstantiated internet gossip

[calimary]

124. Welcome to DU, Mime-Is-Money!

I'm just sitting tight and keeping my fingers crossed. Any ONE of those things would be enough for me. Because they don't phase so many Trumpsters - just boggles my mind.

[Mime-Is-Money]

138. Thanks!

definitely glad to be here! Was a long time lurker. Now looking forward to celebrating in 4 days!

[NeverDump]

91. Anonymous chimes in

@YourAnonCentral: There is a rumor going around about Russia having a certain politician/business man blackmailed over a sex/rape thing... wonder who it is.

This was just retweeter by Theiner

Along w this tweet


@noclador: #Trump hired #PaulManafort because he was "highly recommended"...
but by whom... #Trump did not say... https://twitter.com/noclador/status/794288141322637312/photo/1

[bluestateguy]

96. I don't trust Anonymous at all

nt

[blue-wave]

94. If there is anything

in the way of a bombshell, it needs to be released by Friday late a.m. at the latest. Actually, the sooner the better.

[calimary]

125. Welcome to DU, blue-wave!

Agreed. Sooner is better.

[blue-wave]

127. Thank You!

Glad I finally found the place for sanity on the net. In too many places the inmates are running the asylum.

[musicblind]

132. Either the noon hour or 1 pm hour would be good because

Either the noon hour or the 1 pm hour would be good because Noon on CNN is Inside Politics and 1 pm on CNN is Wolf.

Wolf is the show that broke the FBI letter.

[-Steph-]

95. I have an Aunt that I love very much. She's a good person and has a kind and gentle soul... but

She's not very political and is a one issue voter. That issue is abortion. If this information were to hit MSM, I believe it could sway some votes, such as my Aunt's.

[Mr. Ected]

97. Trumpies are hypnotized. Their echo chambers have reverberated the same message for decades.

They do not react to scalding allegations. They do not have a conscience. They do not apply the same standards, or any standards, to their candidate. They exist for one sole purpose: to defeat the other guy, the other girl, the other party, the opposition.

No matter what Trump did, does or will do: it doesn't matter.

And you know what? It DOESN'T matter. Hillary's got this. GOTV.

[calimary]

98. Welcome to DU, NeverDump! I would believe both of them.

I hope so. But with this guy, it wouldn't surprise me at all. He certainly strikes me as the kind of man who would NEVER "lower himself" to provide "protection" during sex. So I'd bet there were at least a few abortions in there somewhere.

[OKNancy]

99. don't know, but both are very believable n/t

[flying-skeleton]

100. As much as I'd like to believe this .....

Sorry. Ain't believing it UNTIL it's reported by the mainstream media.

Until then ........ GO VOTE PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!

[Renew Deal]

104. Looks like the Eichenwald story is the story Rick Wilson is hinting

https://twitter.com/root2702/status/794296398191742977

[Bernardo de La Paz]

106. Perhaps Putin is tired of tRump. His useful idiot is not so useful now he is kind of obvious. nt

[Renew Deal]

109. Or, Putin is not the only one that knows about this

The CIA/Intelligence types might know about it too.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

112. Could be. Trump visited Moscow multiple times in last 10 years. Any chance he was "entertained"?

If he was honey-trapped, there may have been enough Russian spy agency chatter about it to get CIA / NSA attention.

[Renew Deal]

113. You're assuming that the CIA wouldn't notice on their own

Or even be in on it

[Renew Deal]

116. For example

Thomas C. Theiner ‏@noclador 2h
2 hours ago

#Trump's #Soviet contact: ambassador (actually ПГУ Генера́л-лейтена́нт Yuri Dubinin.
Then @CIA Deputy Director Bob Gates had them tailed.

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/794267580848603136

[PasadenaTrudy]

118. Thank you!

I saw these tweets as well. Intriguing.

[keithbvadu2]

110. Like today's evangelical supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian of faith.

This would not hurt him that much with his base.

[angrychair]

111. I want it to matter

I truly, deeply, hope it does matter but I think with literally just a couple days left and the vast majority of voters are in scandal/outrage overload that it just will not get looked at enough voters and little to no media time (see racketeering case THIS MONTH that gets zero air time).

It's sad and incredibly frustrating but trump just doesn't care and has no need to reply or answer to anything he says or does. Ever. No matter what it is. Why? Within a couple hours the 24/7 news cycle has to move on to the new scandal of the hour, real or perceived, or else risk losing the idiotocracy viewership with the attention span of a goldfish.

I know it's jaded but I don't think it's far from true and this election has proven me right so far.

[Chemisse]

114. I don't think either would hurt him badly.

But either would change the media focus for a day or two, which would be helpful.

[nikto]

115. The typical Trumpster response will be ...

To #1. support all abortions in the case of Republicans only.

and

#2. To support legal prostitution in the case of Republicans only.

Ethical problems solved.

See how easy it will be?

Just an expansioin of the already existing rule: IOKIYAR


Ah yes,
Moral Relativism that is 99 and 44/100ths pure.

[NeverDump]

126. If he did all of this

I want it out in the open. If it was a Democrat the Repukes would be screaming bloody murder.

If as a nation we are this close to electing a Russian compromised mob connected child rapist for our leader the people have to know.

[fleabiscuit]

129. Help me to onnect the dots:

New York > Trump > James Kallstrom > Rudy Giuliani > James Comey > $1 million

Four months after fundraiser, Trump says he gave $1 million to veterans (?) group

"He told me he’s going to give us a million dollars from the money that was pledged," said (James) Kallstrom, a retired FBI official.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/24/four-months-later-donald-trump-says-he-gave-1-million-to-veterans-group/

Meet Donald Trump’s Top FBI Fanboy:
Two days before FBI director James Comey rocked the world last week, Rudy Giuliani was on Fox, where he volunteered, un-prodded by any question: “I think he’s [Donald Trump] got a surprise or two that you’re going to hear about in the next few days. I mean, I’m talking about some pretty big surprises.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/03/meet-donald-trump-s-top-fbi-fanboy.html

Do you suppose that James Kallstrom could still have had access to the file about Bill Clinton and made it pubic?

[Mr. Ected]

130. The Fundies Don't Care that Trump is a Prostituting Abortionist

They just want him to outlaw prostitution and abortion when he's President.

Character only matters when it's a Democrat being scrutinized.

[GopherGal]

133. Lie back and think of the Supreme Court

Trump's "burn it all down" contingent will probably just be impressed by prostitute videos starring their alpha-male hero.

And a certain part of the so-called religious right would (quite possibly literally) vote for the Devil himself if he promised to appoint justices who'd overturn Roe v Wade.

But some of those suburban anti-choice women currently intending to hold their noses and mark "Trump" even though they wouldn't let their daughters within a mile of him might have their enthusiasm dampened a little by such revelations.

And these should be sensational enough to crowd out the Huma's emails stories in the press.

[lindysalsagal]

134. Proving 12 abortions would require months of well-funded court fights.

It's not like all 12 women went to the same lawyer and have checks with his name on them.

No way can this be corroborated in 4 days. Much as I'd like to see it.

[Dawson Leery]

135. kick

[musicblind]

137. I hope this is still happening. n/t