2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCatholic Church that doubles as polling place hands out flier linking Hillary to Satan
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/catholic-church-that-doubles-as-polling-place-hands-out-flier-linking-hillary-to-satan/
The San Diego Union-Tribune reports that the Immaculate Conception Catholic Church, which is located in the Old Town neighborhood of San Diego and that will be a polling place on election day, distributed a weekly newsletter in mid-October that had a flier inserted in it that told parishioners theyd go to hell if they voted for Democrats.
It is a mortal sin to vote Democrat, read the flier. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell.
Two weeks later, another flier was stuffed into a church bulletin that claimed Hillary Clinton was using the tactics of organizer Saul Alinsky to do Satans bidding.
The devil does this through tactics outlined by Saul Alinsky, it read. As Hillary Clinton stated, And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed, to draw us away from Gods teachings regarding the sanctity of life to those of the world and its prince.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)"Only the Young Die Young" Billy Joel
Come out, Virginia, don't let me wait
You Catholic girls start much too late
But sooner or later it comes down to fate
I might as well be the one
They showed you a statue and told you to pray
They built you a temple and locked you away
But they never told you the price that you pay
For things that you might have done...
Only the good die young
You might have heard I run with a dangerous crowd
We ain't too pretty, we ain't too proud
We might be laughing a bit too loud
But that never hurt no one
So, come on, Virginia, show me a sign
Send up a signal I'll throw you the line
The stained-glass curtain you're hiding behind
Never lets in the sun
Darling, only the good die young
You got a nice white dress and a party on your confirmation
You got a brand new soul
And a cross of gold
But, Virginia, they didn't give you quite enough information
You didn't count on me
When you were counting on your rosary
They say there's a heaven for those who will wait
Some say it's better but I say it ain't
I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
The sinners are much more fun...
You know that only the good die young
You say your mother told you all that I could give you was a reputation
She never cared for me
But did she ever say a prayer for me?
Come out, come out, come out
Virginia, don't let me wait,
You Catholic girls start much too late,
But sooner or later it comes down to fate
I might as well be the one,
You know that only the good die young
Tell you baby
You know that only the good die young
Only the good die young
Only the good
Only the good die young
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)To be clear: churches are allowed to take stands on political issues or referenda, but they are absolutely NOT allowed to advocate for one candidate over another in a political race.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...the next paragraph in the article is the church claiming they didn't do it.
Insert obligatory Church Lady reference here.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)I do it all the time- I post no more than 4 but not necessarily the opening 4. Sometimes the 1st and perhaps the last
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Other times, I will select non-consecutive paragraphs. For this story, I wanted the ones I chose.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Ivan Illich "Deschooling Society". Catholic Church was the third most wealthy or efficient "business" about 1964.
Chase Manhattan Bank and GM were the top two.
Low paid staff, tax free, cash flow, wealth in art, gold, lands etc etc
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This is bullshit!
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Submariner
(12,504 posts)the roman catholic church of child rape needs to STFU and get the hell out of the right wing nut political business.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)took it upon themselves to deceive church members with this.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)So they have in incentive to stop pulling shit like this. I'm sorry they have people going rogue but without an admission of wrong doing they need a penalty
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)could have gone inside and slipped the fliers inside the stack of Church bulletins.
Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)Guarantee at least one of those skeletons is an aborted baby. Wonder how they feel about that?
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)CNN was interviewing people outside of a Trump rally a week or so ago, and there were some very scary answers as to why they were supporting Trump. There were some evangelical types that were claiming that Trump is all shiny and religious now (one woman was very fervently claiming that Trump had been chosen by god, the Christian one of course, to be president)
Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)These people in 4 years: "David Duke is GAWD'S chosen candidate!"
mainer
(12,022 posts)And this particular "church" will have new leadership soon.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)or the Church.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)I am sure they are hoping that some church attendees will think (mistakenly) that Father "John" or the diocese or church itself is issuing some sort of explicit position on the presidential election.
The language sounds rather evangelical/conservative Protestant -- I wonder if some enterprising evangelical took it upon himself/herself to "guide" the Catholic vote.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)into the stacks of Church bulletins.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)this so it may have come from a Baptist trying to "fix" the Catholic vote (Catholics do tend to vote for democrats)! Obviously I am just speculating...
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)struggle4progress
(118,290 posts)and bulletin do not reflect Catholic teaching or diocese policies, are inappropriate, and that voters should use their conscience to determine which candidates to support. Its not a mortal sin to vote for Democrats, number one. And number two, the church doesnt take positions on this, and were not going to, diocese spokesman Kevin Eckery said ... The diocese said the flier was not authorized by the parish, but it was somehow inserted into the Oct. 16 bulletin ...
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/sd-me-church-bulletin-20161102-story.html
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Good grief!!!
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)Pieces of shite!
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)Then, remove polling equipment ASAP to new location and provide volunteers to direct voters to correct location.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Church doors are typically left unlocked so people can pray. Anyone could have gone in and inserted the fliers into the bulletins.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Remember this is the world-wide religious organization that has a world-wide long standing cover-up of their predator priests. They say 6% of priests world-wide are pedophiles. Seems to me, "The Church" is capable of stuffing church bulletins with Trump propaganda.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Any actual CATHOLIC knows this. It sounds much more likely something an evangelical might say -- hoping they can convince Catholics.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)I hold my doubts and say that, the church, is capable of wrongdoing.
Who knows, maybe they will catch the person, and mystery solved. If they talk.
Have a good night. No worries.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)with positions taken by each of the parties. It does not take partisan sides, believing both parties are flawed, all humans sin, and individuals have to make up their own minds.