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madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:51 PM Nov 2016

Why is Andrew Sullivan saying Trump is going to win?

He is on Hardball and telling Chris Matthews Trump is going to win because racist white people are afraid of brown people.

The polls seem to look good for Hillary, maybe he wants to make sure Hillary voters go to vote.

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Why is Andrew Sullivan saying Trump is going to win? (Original Post) madaboutharry Nov 2016 OP
Because he's the same overrated "Bell Curve promoting" douchebag he's Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2016 #1
That sounds reasonable. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #41
Hillary voters really can't be casual about this election Dem2 Nov 2016 #2
No one is being casual .. JHan Nov 2016 #30
I just saw that napkinz Nov 2016 #3
Because Andrew Sullivan BlueMTexpat Nov 2016 #5
This thread is so timely because I was just ranting to my boyfriend about that popinjay. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2016 #6
Fuck 538 NastyWomen Nov 2016 #32
Exactly. Princeton's Sam Wang is much better. /nt radius777 Nov 2016 #39
He hates the Cllintons. RandySF Nov 2016 #7
+1 joeybee12 Nov 2016 #18
+ 1 ... that is the short answer. JoePhilly Nov 2016 #23
That is true. He has a long history of doing so. Back-stabber when ever he can get riversedge Nov 2016 #26
I just saw that, too. sarae Nov 2016 #8
For attention. Barack_America Nov 2016 #11
so Trump supporters will feel justified in feeling the election was stolen Skittles Nov 2016 #14
I don't care what he says. He skeeves me out. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2016 #15
One word: Racism Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2016 #25
disagree. Sullivan is strongly anti-racism/anti-fascism, radius777 Nov 2016 #40
Well he is right about white wingers fear/hatred of "brown people." Whether there are enough of Hoyt Nov 2016 #16
It's sort of bizarre for DU to condemn him for saying what we say every day right here ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2016 #20
Fuck those self-segregating haters. Black and brown people are the ones who need to be scared . . . brush Nov 2016 #24
He has a meltdown every 4 years about this time. Like clockwork. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #27
That's why I call him Wrong Way Andy. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2016 #35
So he is panicking just like everybody else DLCWIdem Nov 2016 #43
He dials it up to 11 nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #44
Because he learned to read a teleprompter? ROFLMAO. Coyotl Nov 2016 #28
He always was a dumb shit. Overrated, just like Maureen Dowd. n/t duffyduff Nov 2016 #29
Because he has hated the Clinton family longer than Chelsea has been alive. Rex Nov 2016 #31
Bill Maher calls him out on his Hillary hating all the time October Nov 2016 #33
He's not very smart. Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #36
Because he's a self-loathing gay man who also happens BigDemVoter Nov 2016 #37
Because he pays attention to history and knows what can happen if it's close enough for ONE state to wiggs Nov 2016 #38
R#1 for, can you (or I) X-post this to GD? UTUSN Nov 2016 #42
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BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
5. Because Andrew Sullivan
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:58 PM
Nov 2016

has proven many times over that he is an idiot.

Every so often, he gets something right. But that is usually when the thing has become self-evident.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
6. This thread is so timely because I was just ranting to my boyfriend about that popinjay.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:00 PM
Nov 2016

The good news is that douche bag is wrong about everything.

That said, 538 is giving me agita.

 

NastyWomen

(119 posts)
32. Fuck 538
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 09:14 PM
Nov 2016

Pollyvote dot com. 538 is playing into the media tight race game. He did this crap leading up to the debates. Voters are not changing their minds to such a degree either way this late

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
26. That is true. He has a long history of doing so. Back-stabber when ever he can get
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 09:05 PM
Nov 2016

the opportunity. Reminds me of Andrea Mitchell lots of times.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
8. I just saw that, too.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:05 PM
Nov 2016

He's a conservative. He also said liberals are to blame for what we're going through now because of our long-term dependence on identity politics.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
40. disagree. Sullivan is strongly anti-racism/anti-fascism,
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:46 PM
Nov 2016

that is what his fear about Trump is, that there are so many racists/sexists in this country that they will sweep Trump to victory.

Of course, this is not likely, as long as the Obama coalition turns out (which is very likely), H should win easily.

Sullivan, imo, is simply trying to get people not to take anything for granted, basically GOTV.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. Well he is right about white wingers fear/hatred of "brown people." Whether there are enough of
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:37 PM
Nov 2016

the Deplorables to elect Trump is still in question.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
20. It's sort of bizarre for DU to condemn him for saying what we say every day right here
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:50 PM
Nov 2016

He's being honest about the reasons, unlike Tweety who claims it's "salt of the earth people worried about their jobs".

brush

(53,782 posts)
24. Fuck those self-segregating haters. Black and brown people are the ones who need to be scared . . .
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:58 PM
Nov 2016

of them, what with their guns and willingness to shoot unarmed black and brown people.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
27. He has a meltdown every 4 years about this time. Like clockwork.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 09:06 PM
Nov 2016

He was convinced Obama was going to lose after the first debate in 2012. Convinced.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
31. Because he has hated the Clinton family longer than Chelsea has been alive.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 09:12 PM
Nov 2016

I have no idea what his vendetta is against them, someone here can tell you no doubt.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
37. Because he's a self-loathing gay man who also happens
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:11 PM
Nov 2016

to be a motherfucking idiot? Might that be the reason?

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
38. Because he pays attention to history and knows what can happen if it's close enough for ONE state to
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:37 PM
Nov 2016

'find' a bunch of ballots...or purge 20,000 minorities from the voter rolls....or forget to put enough voting machines in urban areas....or get a ruling against a recount....or leave counting machines open to the internet for anyone to hack in....

How many of the close states have a gop led governor's mansion and legislature? How many of the close states have secretaries of state that are also the state Trump campaign chairman (like happened for Bush in Ohio)?

Kathy Davis took matters into her own hands. Had a duty, a calling.

The NY office of the FBI appears to have put their thumb on the scale.

North Carolina legislatures crafted 'insane' policies meant to disenfranchise minority voters.

We all KNOW that Ken Blackwell did it in Ohio and Katherine Harris did it in Florida.

It has to be a landslide to avoid someone taking matters into their own hands. There are a lot of people out there, both well known politicians and nobodies working in a dark office, who think they have a duty and a calling. If it comes down to one state or one county....

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