2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNate Silver in September gave GOP donors a closed-door presentation.
Hmmm . . . I wonder if this has anything to do with his predictions being consistently lower than the other aggregators?
The NYTimes lists the predictions of multiple aggregators, including Silver, who gives Hillary a 65% chance of winning the nomination; the NYTimes, the next lowest prediction at 85%; and Professor Sam Wang of Princeton who, based on state polls, gives Hillary a 99% chance of winning. These multiple results and others are listed about halfway down the page on the first link, below.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295469-nate-silver-gives-gop-donors-a-closed-door-presentation
Nate Silver, the ESPN journalist behind the FiveThirtyEight website, gave a presentation on the 2016 battleground map to a group of powerful Republican donors in Manhattan last week.
Silver was paid to give the presentation by the American Opportunity Alliance, a group led by some of the biggest GOP donors in the country, including hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer and the Ricketts family, which owns the Chicago Cubs.
Silvers closed-door session was part of a two-day confab, held Sept. 78 at Le Bernardin Prive, a private dining room inside a New York City restaurant run by celebrity chef Eric Ripert.
Upward of three dozen top donors attended the gathering, along with senior Republican Party officials and strategists. Silvers presentation on Wednesday afternoon was a highlight of the two-day event, people at the event said.
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dogindia
(1,345 posts)sad if Silver has sold out. There are enough good polls that can counter him is true. Pathetic if so.
brooklynite
(94,590 posts)He has a model; it's been fairly accurate. The fact that he was paid to give an update is meaningless.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)it includes both state and national polls. He prefers the NYTimes Upshot for national polls.
election.princeton.edu
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)i don't think Silver is partisan or bad in any way, but the media (of which he has become a major figure in now) wants a horserace. Many polling companies also are like this, drop out outlier polls to get conversation going, create horserace, etc.
A boring and stable prediction (i.e. Wang, Sabato, Cook) doesn't get people talking.
If the media told the truth about Comey's crap, that there really is nothing there, mainly about Weiner, etc, and the real story is a coup d'etat being attempted by the FBI to throw the election to Trump, he would be behind by 15 points by now and there would be nothing to watch, hence no ratings, no profits.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)No one thinks Trump is winning NV. No one.
But the polls indicate Trump has a chance there.
Silver's model isn't all that fantastic--pretty much averages the polls.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)Maybe he needs to adjust his ratings and weights.
forjusticethunders
(1,151 posts)Just tweak the way you weigh the garbage and the nongarbage* and you can get whatever horse(shit)race you want.
*all public polls are "garbage" to an extent, even the best ones, due to undercounting POCs, not being able to account for GOP/evangelical women too scared to poll Hillary at the dinner table but not to vote her in secret, and the lack of targeted voter data compared to internal polling
hack89
(39,171 posts)Why would he throw away his future like you are suggesting?
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)His success rate is extremely high, especially in presidential elections. Don't know where you got tthis "lucky once" idea from.
femmedem
(8,203 posts)"One theme of this election in general is that it might advance a lot of conversations but it also proves how far society has to go. And thats putting it politely. Im not sure what words to use, but theres something profoundly evil about the Trump campaign at this point, and the people he attracts to it. And I think thats the right word to use."
From an October 14 podcast.
budkin
(6,703 posts)Because they got burned in 2012
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Should have done it years ago. Not last month.