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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:48 PM Dec 2012

Retired generals urge Obama to keep Gitmo promise


In a letter to the president, 27 former military leaders call for renewed efforts to close the facility

BY NATASHA LENNARD

27 retired military generals and admirals signed their names to a letter Tuesday, urging President Obama to follow through on his four year-old promise to close the U.S. detention facility in Guantanamo.

Last week the White House threatened to veto a new version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which in its current form could impose prisoner transfer restrictions that may compromise plans to close the facility. Last year, Obama threatened a veto over similar objections but backed down and signed the act into law. As such, retired top military brass are urging a redoubling of efforts to close the camp. The letter, organized by Human Rights First, noted:

There remains a clear path to closing Guantanamo during the second term of your presidency. Detainees who have been unanimously cleared for transfer by the interagency taskforce, which included all the relevant security and intelligence agencies, should be transferred. Detainees who have allegedly committed crimes should face civilian trials in federal courts or an appropriate foreign jurisdiction. Although your administration continues to hold law of war detainees without charge or trial, under the laws of war they may be held only while hostilities are ongoing. We are approaching the end of the war in Afghanistan and the Secretary of Defense has said that the United States is “within reach of strategically defeating Al Qaeda.” Your administration should now turn its attention to what it will take to combat terrorism over the long term.


Human Rights First has put forward an updated Blueprint on how to close Guantanamo in President Obama’s second-term.

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http://www.salon.com/2012/12/04/retired_generals_urge_obama_to_keep_gitmo_promise/

Link the Human Rights First updated Blueprint:
http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/pdf/blueprints2012/HRF_Guantanamo_blueprint.pdf
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Retired generals urge Obama to keep Gitmo promise (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2012 OP
Aren't the Generals directing their plea to the wrong person? 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #1
He can't do anything because he is a victim of the Republicans? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #2
Stop it ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #4
Now you've got him in a position where he can't even speak up? He can't even do that? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #5
You clearly hear what you want to hear ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #8
Falsely accusing by implication that a person is disloyal is a McCarthy tactic. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #11
I know it didn't pass the Senate. President Obama was all for it but Cha Dec 2012 #3
I'm starting to think ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #6
Yeah, I think the same.. Cha Dec 2012 #7
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #9
Done? Cha Dec 2012 #13
Responding to a certain poster. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #14
Oh good.. 'cause I didn't Cha Dec 2012 #15
+1 treestar Dec 2012 #10
Exactly, treestar.. certainly they know how our Cha Dec 2012 #12
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. Aren't the Generals directing their plea to the wrong person?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:57 PM
Dec 2012

Didn't the House refuse funding for the closure of GITMO, arguing they didn't want dangerous terrorist jailed in the U.S., where they would be afforded the rule and protects under the law?

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
2. He can't do anything because he is a victim of the Republicans?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:04 PM
Dec 2012

At a minimum, as the President and commander-in-chief, he could start making noise about closing the Kentucky portion of Fort Campbell (located in both Tennessee and Kentucky) in the interest of greater efficiency.

If Mitch McConnell and others did not get the message, he could take action to start doing so.

This is not the only action that he could take.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
4. Stop it ...
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:55 PM
Dec 2012

Just, stop it! Yes ... In our system of government, a President can be stopped from doing what he wants because of an opposition party.

Obama’s pledge to shutter the Guantánamo Bay military prison was one of his biggest campaign promises in 2008, and he signed an executive order his first week in office to close the military facility on Cuban soil.

...

But in the face of fierce opposition in Congress from Republicans, Obama backed away from his attempts to close the facility and move the terrorism trials from military commissions into federal courts.

...

House Armed Services Chairman Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) said that bipartisan opposition prevented the administration from closing the prison when Democrats held majorities in both chambers of Congress.

“If he wants to try again, that is his choice,” McKeon, who has helped lead GOP efforts to block transfers of Gitmo detainees in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), said in a statement to The Hill.

http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/263125-obama-faces-long-odds-to-close-gitmo-if-he-tries-again-
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
5. Now you've got him in a position where he can't even speak up? He can't even do that?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:57 PM
Dec 2012

Is that why he doesn't do so?

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
11. Falsely accusing by implication that a person is disloyal is a McCarthy tactic.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:22 PM
Dec 2012

Joe McCarthy was this guy, a Republican:



Falsely accusing those with whom you disagree of being disloyal is not a tactic that you adopt.

Cha

(297,272 posts)
3. I know it didn't pass the Senate. President Obama was all for it but
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:31 PM
Dec 2012

the Senate Flaked Out.

"Don’t Blame Obama: Only 6 Democratic Senators Voted To Fund Closing GITMO"

Far left progressives constantly bash Obama for not closing GITMO, but a closer look at the facts reveals that their blame has been misplaced.

http://www.politicususa.com/don%E2%80%99t-blame-obama-only-6-democratic-senators-voted-to-fund-closing-gitmo.html
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. I'm starting to think ...
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:58 PM
Dec 2012

Well ... If I wrote want I'm starting to think, I'd probably get TSed for calling someone out.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. +1
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:21 PM
Dec 2012

Why do they not go to the House? And being generals, that could shame the Republicans into doing the right thing.

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