2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI am Seriously Worried We Might Lose Michigan
Back on October 3rd, we were ahead by 10 points but now the lead is cut to just 4 points in the averages. There has been some back and forth in Michigan during the election but we have also head a pretty good lead but now it is cut to its lowest point all year. Something is going very wrong for us in Michigan. Why the sudden drop off in a once solid blue state? Why do the republicans suddenly have so much appeal there? Can this really be happening?
I am seriously worried that Romney might actually take Michigan in a squeaker on election day.
Oh, I'm sorry, I accidently posted old poll averages from RCP from 2012 to make a point. Silly me.
vadermike
(1,415 posts)Lol ! HRC campaign isn't taking any chances is all they are doing ! GOTV !!
writes3000
(4,734 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 6, 2016, 12:25 AM - Edit history (1)
AmericanMan1958
(520 posts)I have been working the GOTV for last 4 weekends
Not sure what kind of secret bullshit is going on in the Trump campaign.
Thing changed here around Tuesday of this week.
First, I started noticing some bumper stickers. (on back windows, for easy removal)
Then I ran into a few areas that were plastered with Trump signs, I mean Plastered.
Some neighborhoods had them around like No Trespassing signs.
My home district isn't bad. But the Harrison Twp area is terrible.
The Lake St. Clair Shore front is really bad. Very high rent district.
Glad we called in the heavy hitters.
GOTV has always been fun for me, this year is different, much different, people are guarded, almost frightened to speak.
This not the America I want.
But I will continue work hard till the last vote is cast.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)I think somebody read a stat saying that each sign is worth a certain % of a vote, so the Trumpites think more signs = more votes.
I saw a couple putting down like 100 signs in a row - I laughed - these people are fanatics.
AmericanMan1958
(520 posts)Will be back out tomorrow, do two routes
5 hours of phone bank Monday
and all day Tuesday.
I still think we got the lead, not about to back off now!
manicraven
(901 posts)wisteria
(19,581 posts)I have seen houses in my area of PA with Trump flags. Yes, huge Trump flags. I think they are trying to reach the very low info voter by msking them think Trump is very popular.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)We're all stressed, but Michigan isn't the only state and this happens every cycle with a state here and a state there.
idziak4ever1234
(1,257 posts)Sometimes they do not make a strong showing.
AmericanMan1958
(520 posts)The AA"s are bust there asses around here.
Speaking on be half of us 58 year old white males
We need to get our head out of our asses.
If Trump wins Michigan and I don't think he will.
It is us WHITE MALES that gave him the win.
No one to blame but us.
Just my opinion for what it is worth.
brush
(53,794 posts)demographic in 2010 and 2014 who didn't get their issues instantly fixed?
doc03
(35,351 posts)in 2012 it has Obama leading by 4 points and actually gets +9.5. Then 2016 it has Hillary leading by 4 points same as 2012.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)I think I missed the ques.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)I see a lot of posts and news stories about sudden concern in michigan but we hear this shit every 4 years. However, we forget quickly
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)in Presidential races:
1992-Clinton
1996-Clinton
2000-Gore
2004-Kerry
2008-Obama
2012-Obama
It has been 28 years (1988) since Michigan has gone GOP. Do we seriously think Trump will be the one to break this string?
Seriously?
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)dead man walking now... SHE IS NOT GOING TO LOOSE MI, WI, PA, NH, NV, NC, FL, OH...
they are in the order.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)That is like you opinion, man.
If he wins, he wins and the country suffers horribly.
But unless the dumbass starts a nuclear war, we will recover. Of course, he may very start a nuclear war!
manicraven
(901 posts)The idiot wants to ramp up coal production and appoint climate deniers, etc. He IS dangerous.
still_one
(92,250 posts)change.
I believe Michigan does not have early voting, so the most important thing for Michigan is to GOTV on election day
Regardless, I appreciate your message Jack, it is a point worth putting emphasis on
Thanks
Eggy
(6 posts)I've stopped dwelling on the odds at this point. There are so many things that can go wrong, which is why we have to do everything possible to make sure it goes right. Sign up for a shift at your local campaign office if you can.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)andym
(5,444 posts)Especially those that don't read it carefully.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)And why must we have 10 threads about the same exact story or poll?
ham_actor
(38 posts)As I recall many Democrats were worried about Michigan back in 2012 and I think the msm played into that worry with reports on how the race had tightened up in that state which was after all Mitt Romney's home state where his father had been a very popular Governor.
brush
(53,794 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)While stabbing at red states that are out of reach, but I think we'll get away with it.
When we made those aggressive moves in Arizona and elsewhere it was as if we assumed normalcy for the remainder. You can't assume normalcy. Once Comey arrived, those aggressive states were gone and suddenly the complacency in states like Michigan, Colorado, New Hampshire and Virginia made this race tighter than warranted.