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JustinL

(722 posts)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:54 PM Nov 2016

"Lies, Damn Lies, and Exit Polls" - did Trump really win 29% of the Latino vote?

http://www.latinodecisions.com/blog/2016/11/10/lies-damn-lies-and-exit-polls/

In the 36 hours since the results of the Presidential election became clear, a number of “analyses” have emerged suggesting that a surprisingly large share of the Latino vote went to Donald Trump, despite his demonization of Latinos, his attacks on Judge Curiel and Alicia Machado, his blanket hostility to immigrants, and more. The basis of these claims are the National Exit Poll, a survey commissioned by a consortium of media outlets who wish to understand the electorate’s behavior. The exit poll numbers for Latinos are wildly inconsistent with dozens of pre-election polls demonstrating a larger than 3-1 advantage for Secretary Clinton. What happened?

The exit poll reports of Latino vote are profoundly and demonstrably incorrect. The methodology used for this poll systematically misrepresents all voters of color and this can be demonstrated with actual precinct-level results and with their practices in the last decade. We note, at the start, that unlike the Latino Decisions Election Eve Poll, the precise details of this year’s exit polls are not available to the public or press, which should at least give you pause when considering their accuracy. Moreover, since many high profile media outlets actually pay for the poll (ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, NBC and the Associated Press), reporters and editors are instructed to use that data, not to critique it, and to disregard other data sources.

The Latino Decisions poll of 5600 extremely high propensity Latino voters in the nights immediately prior to the election reported 79% of Latino voters supporting Secretary Clinton, 18% supporting Donald Trump, and 3% other. We have provided an extensive and detailed description of our methodology online here. Our findings demonstrate, among other things, that 55% of Latinos see Trump as hostile, compared with just 30% viewing the GOP as hostile and only 5% thinking that about Democrats, that there was a substantial 12-point shift to the left among Cuban voters in Florida, and that Latinas (86%) were more likely to support Secretary Clinton than Latino men (71%) who, nevertheless, were strongly Democratic. Here are 10 things to consider when evaluating the Exit Poll findings against ours:
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"Lies, Damn Lies, and Exit Polls" - did Trump really win 29% of the Latino vote? (Original Post) JustinL Nov 2016 OP
Why even 1%? Submariner Nov 2016 #1
they're not a monolith. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #3
There are lots of Latino groups gollygee Nov 2016 #8
Latino Decisions says its poll was right and the exit poll was wrong. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #2
I live in the Keys. tavernier Nov 2016 #4
"The Cubans" are NOT a monolithic voting bloc. Coyotl Nov 2016 #5
That's what I'm saying, tavernier Nov 2016 #6
What is so "weird"... FrenchieCat Nov 2016 #7

Submariner

(12,506 posts)
1. Why even 1%?
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:59 PM
Nov 2016

What idiot would vote for a racist who describes his or her race as rapists and murderers?

Are they fucking stupid?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. they're not a monolith.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:06 PM
Nov 2016

Some are just plain conservative, take the whole abortion thing seriously, etc. They're from many different countries, areas, etc.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
8. There are lots of Latino groups
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 06:39 PM
Nov 2016

And they're very different and vote differently. I don't think members of one Latino group would think, after hearing another Latino group called rapists and murders, that it was aimed at them.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Latino Decisions says its poll was right and the exit poll was wrong.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:05 PM
Nov 2016

They may be right, but it's plausible their poll was just wrong.

tavernier

(12,396 posts)
4. I live in the Keys.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:26 PM
Nov 2016

The Cubans here voted for Trump. I knew they would all along. I'm quite certain that's what happened in Miami as well. Their fervent desire is to keep the republicans alive and Rubio in the game so that he can become the next president. Fortunately, Latinos from other countries aren't as fond of the lazy piece of shit.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
5. "The Cubans" are NOT a monolithic voting bloc.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:05 PM
Nov 2016

The Cuban Americans in Florida are skewed to the right of Latinos generally, but they are also a very small group relative to Latinos.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
7. What is so "weird"...
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:25 PM
Nov 2016

They don't want us to trust the election poll and the exit polls,
But we're supposed to believe they know exactly what demographics voted for who?
I don't buy it!

It was a coup, not an election!

None of the after action reports are true.

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