2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSerious questions raised about vote totals in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania
*** And please see AmBlue's #4 post below, and sign the petition for an audit. ***
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/fair-election-serious-hard-explain-questions-arise-about-trump-vote-totals-3-key
A series of explanation-defying questions surrounding Donald Trumps victories in key 2016 swing states has prompted a cadre of voting rights attorneys and electronic voting machine experts to consider formally filing for presidential recounts in coming days.
These recount-justifying anomalies go beyond the discrepancies in media exit polls predicting a Hillary Clinton victory on November 8 and subsequent vote counts where Trump won states that have not backed Republican presidents for decades. Recounts could clarify or verify whether several different forms of electronic hacking could have padded state voter rolls and altered resulting counts.
Former state election directors contacted by AlterNet were extremely skeptical of the election theft theories that accompanied the troubling vote-count patterns. They added that the courts would not change election results unless there was overwhelming proof. Spokespeople for election departments in possible recount states also said their voting systems were designed to block hacking, especially after federal intelligence officials this summer said Russia hacked into two state voter registration databases (Illinois was named) and warned states to be vigilant. Russia also was reportedly behind hacks of DNC and Clinton campaign emails.
The count anomalies and possible explanations cited by the team of voting rights attorneys and electronic voting machine experts, whose experience in these issues dates back to the 2000 and 2004 elections, combined a mix of old and new threats. In some cases, known electronic voting machine vulnerabilities may have been tapped to inflate county-level vote tabulations, they said, suggesting those machines should be impounded and examined. Where Russia may have been involved, their theory goes beyond anything imagined in past elections. They posited that last summers Russia hacks of voter registration databases could have yielded sufficient information to create large numbers of phantom absentee ballot voters, inflating the Trump vote in certain swing states that helped win the Electoral College.
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Blanks
(4,835 posts)If an election was stolen through tampering, we have until the electors vote to bring it to the nation's attention.
If it was stolen, those who are taking control of our government will not take the necessary steps to prevent it in the future. They are the ones who benefit from the theft.
It's gonna look the way they want it to look for a long time.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)Quickly build a case!
tomp
(9,512 posts)...so pigs and the courts don't play out the clock on us as in 2000.
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)That, plus hand counts.
AmBlue
(3,111 posts)There's still time for an audit: https://www.change.org/p/demand-an-audit-of-the-2016-presidential-election
And read this great article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/11/18/election-audit-paper-machines-column/93803752/
and spread it on every social media network you use. #AuditTheVote
tomp
(9,512 posts)for all votes not counted we need to know why and if the non-counted votes disproportionately affected democrats.
there are a number of other anomalies noted in the counts, and discrepancies in polls, particularly exit polls, vs "final" counts.
Uncounted or "spoiled" ballots would account for these anomalies. The "spoiled" ballot has been used extensively to alter the outcome in Ohio for years.
ancianita
(36,075 posts)both didn't happen, but we have more evidence for the latter than the former.
LibraLiz1973
(8,197 posts)It damn sure wasn't when I signed earlier.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)to prevent potential fraud and irregularities.
It would be very suspicious if they opposed fixing our voting system when it could obviously be corrupted.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)The Republicans never tell you the real reason why they support something.
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... each one of the states... no more no less.
That in itself is anomalous, just enough votes in each state projected for HRC for a 1% win?!
Yeah right
Botany
(70,516 posts)Trump, 'it is rigged."
Hugin
(33,163 posts)If you listen carefully he can't resist bragging about what he's about to do.
It's part of his disorder. I personally believe that's why his handlers removed his "twit' ability on or about election night.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,659 posts)K&R!
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Omaha Steve
(99,659 posts)High school friend I haven't seen in years: Get over it.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)election is rigged.
This doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to figure out.
Now we just need to prove it.
VOX
(22,976 posts)They OWN the blame-shifting-projection-thing, it's their go-to tactic, along with outright lying 24/7.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)unless one is willing to allow for election rigging:
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)iluvtennis
(19,862 posts).
tomp
(9,512 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)ancianita
(36,075 posts)Thanks for this info.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)Mostly AA and latino names.
Freakin' Koback, and now he's being mentioned for some position already at Trump Tower.
Put it all together and it's a wonder that HRC won the popular vote.