2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEmail from a Republican Friend
This is an Email I received from a Friend, Not sure who wrote it but it does explained why they lost So Big.
I have not watched a "national news" show since election night. I have resigned myself to looking inward. As to what "I" can do, I am not sure. What I do know is that what we once took for granted, will ever be gone.
If you have a real solution that can be implemented, I would like to hear it. Take a moment and think of the millions who voted
away the opportunities that this country once offered. You now get to pay for their new agenda for America.
We are now officially a Third World Country thanks to our ignorant
voters. Sad indeed.
The American Dream ended on November 6 in Ohio. The second term of Barack Obama will be the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled and developed the greatest Republic in the history of mankind.
A coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" has ended Norman Rockwell's America. The Cocker Spaniel is off the front porch; the Pit Bull is in the back yard!
The American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Lewinsky's "Rules for Radicals," and Chicago shyster, David Axelrod, along with international Socialist George Soros will be pulling the strings on their black puppet to bring us into the New World Order!
Our side ran two candidates who couldn't even win their own Home
States, and Chris Christie helped Obama over the top with a glowing "post Sandy" tribute that elevated the "Commander-in Chief" to Mother Teresa status.
People like me are completely politically irrelevant, and I will seldom again comment on or concern myself with the
aforementioned coalition which has surrendered our culture, our
heritage and our traditions without a shot being fired!
You will never again outvote these people. It will take individual acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get back the rights we have allowed them to take away.
It will take zealots, not moderates, not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs to right this ship and restore our beloved country to its former status.
Those who come after us will have to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that this generation has timidly frittered away due to "white guilt" and political correctness.
If they weren't happy with their candidates......why choose them?
sinkingfeeling
(51,469 posts)should only be for those white Christian males. I guess that others get to participate in life is one of the 'rights' that was taken from him.
This person is a blatant racist and egoist.
Rider3
(919 posts)I would never consider someone who wrote and/or posted this a friend. I would never want to be considered connected to someone with these ideas. He comes across as an ignorant bigot, with issues of spite, and probably a "Christian," who would run over his mother if he thought it would help himself (the white male). I would love to debate this guy, because I honestly do not think he could hold his own point.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I find that pretty reprehensible.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)ocd liberal
(407 posts)SHUT UP!
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)of people who voted their asses out of town. Unless that is what "Fellow Travelers" means to a republican.
Hopefully they will shoot themselves in the foot while they are cleaning their weapons!
fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)"People like me are completely politically irrelevant" . . . from the 4th to last paragraph.
That is one statement from his rather hateful diatribe with which I completely agree.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)Not much can be done with a true believer.
--imm
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)"Saul Lewinsky"
Dumbass.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)In the immortal words of bugs bunny "What a maroon!"
brooklynite
(94,679 posts)I didn't know Monica had a brother...
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)That though I agree that it is best to look for the "Best Possible Outcome/System", one should learn how to figure out how to get there with a basis on honesty and reality.
Sadly, some are stuck in a backwards vision of America or an America that existed only in their minds, not dealing with the current realities and a historical context of what was.
We are on our way to a 3rd world america due to the policies enacted during the 80s(and older), dinged in the 90s(e.g. Clinton repeal of Glass-Steagall), exacerbated in the 00s and continuing so due to unreasonable and dishonest obstruction.
The Norman Rockwell vision of America is a highly pictorialized and sanitized version of things, showing a lifestyle that is idealic but homogeneous. America is far more varied and complex than that. They have to understand that America is not just build upon the legacies of White Christian Males, it was built in the backs of everyone else who was working from the bottom up. That would include all the groups that little opinion derides.
The current Republican party and its adherents is a clown show that is unable to give substantive factual answers to simple questions like dealing with arithmetic.
-I would probably have happily considered Huntsman with Colbert.-
still_one
(92,328 posts)That brought us where we are today
A country which is polarized, racist, and in financial crisis
I think HIS party has done enough damage
It will take years to undo the damage they have done
Your friend is also a racist so he belongs to the correct party
Skittles
(153,174 posts)poor widdle white Christian males - SOOOO oppressed
Arkana
(24,347 posts)ignorance, and just a general stink of failure.
Your friend is beyond help. Does he know how to walk and breathe at the same time?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Even if one accepts the fallacy of:
He is not one of those "white Christian males." He is, in fact, a present victim of the mentality of those "white Christian males", in that they applied the same strategy to him that the did in the early days of this nation.
But that said, you can always invite him to move to another sparsely populated region, explore it, pioneer it, settle it and develop it into the next greatest Republic in the history of mankind. All it took was being white Christian and male.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)bongbong
(5,436 posts)And recommend they move to the Libertarian Paradise of Somalia.
hamsterjill
(15,223 posts)He sounds like a whiny cry baby to me. Like so many that I'm hearing on a daily basis down here in little ole Texas!
They need to get over it. We won!
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)it sticking a huge semi-automatic weapon into the mouths of other countries and pulling the trigger just to 'get respect'.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)He sounds too much like Pat Buchanan. This is a changing country plus the history of this country is a lot broader than the narrow racist crap he spouts. I hate it when cons scream about "entitlements" but have this type of attitude.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)(In response to this statement: "It will take individual acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get back the rights we have allowed them to take away."
Squinch
(50,989 posts)What a dumbass.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Everything he wrote makes me feel warm and fuzzy: )
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)in the gungeon??
brush
(53,815 posts)Some white males did actual hard back-breaking work in building the country, but many others cracked whips while unpaid and enslaved Africans build much of it. Some white males stood and "oversaw" grossly underpaid Asian workers break their backs lifting railroad ties and digging mines, or took advantage of immigrant Latinos, also grossly underpaid, as they harvested crops and did other jobs that was beneath the dignity of white males. All that happened, but we can't forget about all of the native Americans that had to be cleared out of the way first. Yeah, white males did all the work building the country alright, in their imaginings, of what they think the country was like back in the day. That's the country these Faux Noise-influenced, non-progressive whites want to take back. Well, the poster is right about one thing. It ain't gonna happen. The Koch brothers and their ilk are using the low info tools/fools and money to try to go back to that time but those days are way over.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)to vote and I am willing to bet he didn't have to wait in any long lines because the republicans weren't trying to suppress his vote. Where is the fairness for all voters, not just republicans. I am so happy people were upset enough to say "hell no" they can't tell me I can't vote and so they went and stood in those long lines like good americans they are. They realize their votes count just like everyone elses vote. Folks what we have here are nothing but poor examples of americans. They aren't the better person either. Nothing but crybabies and very sore losers. Nothing more but sore losers.
dhill926
(16,351 posts)in 4 years when things are actually better? Jaysus.....
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)May I recommend this book? It examines the myths of the Ozzie & Harriett, Father Knows Best false memory of the past and explains how these TV-based images were NOT the norm. It's an interesting read as well as a good base for understanding the right-wing wish list for a time that never existed in reality. The RW is desperate to hold on to their illusion of superiority and power and have invented a phony history to support it.
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)Is all the storys and video of these delusional fools completely gobsmacked, confused, and demoralized (does that make me a bad person?). This type outreach from them reminds me they still are!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)he donated money in 2004 to defeat Bush, and I think one time since. And, that's it.
Yet, when RW billionaires donate hundreds of millions each election cycle, it's okay.
Cha
(297,503 posts)too.. ah, here it is..
"Why George Soros waited so long to donate $1 million to help Obama'
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0928/Why-George-Soros-waited-so-long-to-donate-1-million-to-help-Obama
But, so what?.. how much Koch money went into freaking starting the Koch Tea bag party in the first place and how much have they funneled in since?
So they can keep whinging on Soros ad infinitum.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)quite a difference.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,426 posts)It's called "Freedom of Speech"- according to SCOTUS. Them being the hypocrites they are, of course, have huge problems with left-wing billionaires and Unions raising and/or donating money to help candidates friendly to their concerns. C'est la vie!
OnionPatch
(6,169 posts)And after reading that rant, I can only say THANK GOD!!
Cha
(297,503 posts)Mother Teresa compared to your Assholes in the government.. Problem with that?
union_maid
(3,502 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)"It will take zealots, not moderates, not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs to right this ship and restore our beloved country to its former status."
Guess what!..mittLies( Except for that 3rd Debate when romney was all up on Pres Obama's Lap).. and ayn rand ryan are fucking zealots and what are those 23% in polls-Reps in the Congress.. if not freaking Zealots?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,426 posts)Who peed in THEIR wheaties?
Oh yeah, President Barack Obama!
This guy sounds so depressed and out of touch with reality it's pathetic.
Kennah
(14,299 posts)CBHagman
(16,987 posts)See, for instance, the works Rockwell did for Look magazine, Murder in Mississippi and the better-known The Problem We All Live with. The first is about the lynching of three civil rights workers, the second about school desegregation.
As for the email, just google a phrase out of it and you'll find it's making the rounds of the Internets, at all the usual sites.
In any event, no matter how many times the piece is posted, it's still the usual ignorant twaddle, devoid of any sense of history -- any sense, period.
LukeFL
(594 posts)I never heard of that guy. I voted for President Obama because I heard he was giving out "Gifts". And as a woman, I love gifts. Lol
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Makes one hell of a corned beef sandwich, great dill pickles.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Norman Rockwell's America included Jim Crow, lynchings, massive resistance to school integration, the murders of James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner in Mississippi in 1964, Bull Conner using fire hoses and attack dogs on children in Birmingham Alabama in 1963...... need we go on?
Texin
(2,596 posts)Wow. Is this person some member of the damn Windsor family or something? The apparent sense of Christian, caucasion entitlement just reeks to high heaven doesn't it?
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Are you sure this isn't an editorial written by somebody in the 19th century?
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)It is clear that nomadic peoples from Asia came to the North American continent and their offspring built tremendous civilizations including the Aztecs and the Incas. The "new world" had already been discovered when the Puritans arrived at Plymouth Rock.
Or, if you want to take a different approach, it is clear the the Vikings were possibly the first Europeans to discover the new continent. They may have been "white" but they were not Christian. They were pagan.
But that said, this guy is a total doomsayer that isn't worth paying attention to. Move on....
blue neen
(12,327 posts)Wow.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)Roger wilco. Go to bed and turn that damned music down.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Really scare me. He's advocating that people cause civil disobedience, and risk their lives and honor. He's a refers to shots being fired and has a long list of perceived enemies:
"Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers"
Honestly, he sounds like he's having violent fantasies about acting out and needs help. Really unstable.
brewens
(13,615 posts)you out pal! They started working on you in the 80's and suckered you into being their fool!
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)as Lindsay Graham said they can't produce enough angry white men to keep their majority.
They want to live in the fantasy world of Norman Rockwell, it doesn't exist.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)If the American Dream is for every boy to grow up to do better than his daddy did and to be able to raise a family on one paycheck...that died with Reagan's first tax cut.
Norman Rockwell's America existed on the cover of the Saturday Evening Post, and Mayberry only in Andy Griffith's imagination. That so many Republicans bemoan the passing of that which never was is troubling to say the least.