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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:01 PM Dec 2012

Blaming Atheists for Newtown

All that was needed to make the national tragedy of the killing of 20 children and 6 adults into an anti-God kick in Jesus' teeth fest was for the usual suspects who hate Jesus to step up to defame His Name again. Of course I'm talking about the "Christian" leaders who can be counted on to drag the name of Christ through the mud at every profitable fundraising importunity. Christian leaders say that the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut was the result of our national falling away from fundamentalist Protestant gullibility.

The idiots -- religious village idiots that is -- are at it again. I thought Dobson was dead but I guess not. He's just retired. He's still alive enough to act like the zombie-for-Jesus'-younger-dumber-brother he is.(I went on his show 3 times back in the day when I too was part of the religious idiots club.) Bryan Fischer, the American Family Association hate host talk-show host, and Franklin-sell-my-soul-to-the-Mormos-because -I-hate-Obama-so-much-Graham (of course), the president and CEO of the tax-exempt Billy Graham Evangelistic Association was not to be outdone.

Dobson commented while speaking to listeners of his Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk program: “I mean millions of people have decided that God doesn't exist... And a lot of these things are happening around us, and somebody is going to get mad at me for saying what I am about to say right now, but I am going to give you my honest opinion: I think we have turned our back on the scripture and on God almighty and I think he has allowed [this Newtown massacre] judgment to fall upon us. I think that's what's going on.”

Bryan Fischer of the American family Association said the victims at Sandy Hook had lost God’s protection because prayer has been prohibited from schools. “The question is going to come up, where was God?,” Fischer said. “I thought God cared about the little children. God protects the little children. Where was God when all this went down. Here's the bottom line, God is not going to go where he is not wanted... Now we have spent since 1962 -- we're 50 years into this now--we have spent 50 years telling God to get lost, telling God we do not want you in our schools, we don't want to pray to you in our schools, we do not want to pray to your before football games, we don't want to pray to you at graduations, we don't want anybody talking about you in a graduation speech... In 1962 we kicked prayer out of the schools. In 1963 we kicked God's word out of ours schools. In 1980 we kicked the Ten Commandments out of our schools. We've kicked God out of our public school system. And I think God would say to us, 'Hey, I'll be glad to protect your children, but you've got to invite me back into your world first. I'm not going to go where I'm not wanted. I am a gentlemen.”


http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/america-mourned-shooting-tragedy-cynical-christian-right-leaders-tried-cash

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Blaming Atheists for Newtown (Original Post) Redfairen Dec 2012 OP
if their god is everywhere, all aware, and omnipotent, ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2012 #1
Very few people blame athiests it's just a few nut fringe people. WI_DEM Dec 2012 #2
Makes god look like a douche. bamacrat Dec 2012 #3
When something bad happens to some of us Bluzmann57 Dec 2012 #4
The religious arguments bongbong Dec 2012 #5

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
1. if their god is everywhere, all aware, and omnipotent,
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:04 PM
Dec 2012

what the hell are they arguing? That their god has severe limitations, a bad temper, and takes her wrath out on innocent children?

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
3. Makes god look like a douche.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:09 PM
Dec 2012

All statements like his do is reaffirm atheists views and fundamental Christian views. What a great endorsement of god to say he is as petty and immature as a 12 year old. Oh I could help you but you don't want me so therefore I am not your friend. But using his logic and examples everything pre-1962-3 was great and peaceful.. Except for segregation, 2 World Wars a Civil War, lynchings et al. Oh my bad I forgot that all of those things were done because god wanted them done or we were given a pass because we prayed... just dumb

Bluzmann57

(12,336 posts)
4. When something bad happens to some of us
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:12 PM
Dec 2012

and we may pray to God or ask God's help, we are told "God helps those who help themselves" and stuff like that. I can say this from personal experience.
But now that my wife's small child is living with us, it's a "blessing from God." Which is true, but the point I'm trying to make is that if the deity is only around during good times, and the bad things are our own fault and we can't ask him/her/it for help during said bad times, then what good is the deity? It has absolutely nothing to do with "removing God from schools" or anything like that. That is just an excuse so that these charlatans (yep I said it) can get their names on tv.
One more thing, I mentioned my wife's child now living with us. Want to guess who paid for all that? Want to know who had to cut through two government's red tape beauracracy for this "blessing from god" to happen? That's right, it was me. So once again I ask, "Hey god, how about some help here?" We need the money.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
5. The religious arguments
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:50 PM
Dec 2012

can all be boiled down to one sentence:

"I wanna get you riled up so you'll send me more money."

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