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AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:11 AM Dec 2012

The republicans in congress will not agree to any deal in this budget negotiation. The media

is squawking that "lawmakers are working to avoid fiscal cliff...." - it's all bullshit, because the GOP will never compromise with any Democrat on anything.

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The republicans in congress will not agree to any deal in this budget negotiation. The media (Original Post) AlinPA Dec 2012 OP
Then Republicans need to resign from office Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2012 #1
Charge them with treason would be better... santamargarita Dec 2012 #6
But you can't prove that unless it's put up for a vote. Kablooie Dec 2012 #2
the republicans are the terrorist party Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #3
Even Joe Manchin gets it.. Tweet Cha Dec 2012 #4
What Republicans have not yet realized is that the moral advantage is with Democrats provided JDPriestly Dec 2012 #5
The Rs don't have a solution. They don't want to raise any taxes yet they don't want to cut Filibuster Harry Dec 2012 #7
The Corporate Media still running the meme that BOTH Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #8

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
2. But you can't prove that unless it's put up for a vote.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:22 AM
Dec 2012

If there is no chance to vote on something the GOP can keep saying the Democrats are the ones who wouldn't agree.

If it's put up the GOP has to either filibuster or vote it down - in front of the country.

I sure hope they do that tomorrow.
It's just show business but without it there is no proof the Repubs are responsible.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
4. Even Joe Manchin gets it.. Tweet
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 02:07 AM
Dec 2012
Kelly O'Donnell

@KellyO Tonight, "Something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our American economy is the American Congress."@Sen_JoeManchin D WV

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. What Republicans have not yet realized is that the moral advantage is with Democrats provided
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 04:31 AM
Dec 2012

that Democrats stick to their principles.

Republicans will end up with mud on their faces. They want to take from poor people.

That will not sit well.

In negotiations, you want to make sure that what you are demanding is morally the best outcome. And if it is, you will be strong.

That is why Obama and the Democrats should not sacrifice social or environmental programs to satisfy the greed of the Republicans. Americans know that our social and environmental programs are morally necessary. In the end, Americans will side with those that make the case for the greatest moral good in our nation.

The military could be cut considerably as could Homeland Security, the DEA and a number of other programs. Not pursuing marijuana-related crimes for at least a while would save some money. Cutting back just a bit on the personnel in airports might be possible without risking safety. Certainly closing some of our many, many bases overseas would save a lot of money.

There are so many things we could do. Imposing import taxes to benefit our social programs would be a great idea. We also need a transaction tax on the fast-trades on Wall Street. Will some trades simply be made overseas? Tax the trade at the point of origination.

We also should try to place a small tax on money taken out of the US and deposited or used overseas if that is legally possible.

These steps may take dropping out of some trade agreements, but I do not think that we can improve our deficit situation and increase employment in the US unless we tax imports. I would love to see someone suggest some other alternative, but the only thing I have been able to figure out is to tax imports. I think it will eventually be done. It's just a matter of time.

Filibuster Harry

(666 posts)
7. The Rs don't have a solution. They don't want to raise any taxes yet they don't want to cut
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:39 PM
Dec 2012

defense spending. Absolute idiots. Lets see what kind of deals are on the table after we go off the cliff?

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
8. The Corporate Media still running the meme that BOTH
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:50 PM
Dec 2012

parties are at fault and that Americans blame "both sides"!! I had to turn the tv off. MSNBC no better!!!

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