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Related: About this forumLog Cabin Republicans Criticize Chuck Hagel's Gay Rights Record In Full-Page Ad
Hagel recently apologized, saying his 1998 remarks were "insensitive." Hormel has said the former senator's remarks seemed politically timed but accepted them as a "clear apology."
The Log Cabin Republicans' ad says Hagel's apology is "too little, too late," and includes a timeline of the senator's record on gay rights. It points out that in 1996, he said he would have voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, which prohibits federal recognition of same-sex marriages. In 1999, he also said he opposed repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," the ban on openly gay men and women serving in the military that was repealed in 2010.
The group's stance against Hagel appears to be far stricter than it was against GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, whom it endorsed in the presidential race. Romney also opposed same-sex marriage and took hardline positions against gay rights during his campaign.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/07/log-cabin-republicans-chuck-hagel_n_2423950.html
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And yet the Log Cabin Republicans continued to vote for them. No?
They knew Bush and Cheney's stance on these issues and they still voted for THEM.
But NOW those votes matter to them. Interesting.
dsc
(52,166 posts)some voted against it because they wanted an outright ban.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)I'm trying to understand why one would take the Log Cabin republicans seriously in their opposition to Hagel when they seem pretty willing to support other Republicans who have taken far more outrages positions on equal rights for gays.
dsc
(52,166 posts)I don't know which Senators did it. McCain did it as did Helms.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And Bush and Cheney defended DADT and DOMA.
The point that I, and now many others in this thread are making, is that LCRs lack any credibility in the discussion of Hagel.
dsc
(52,166 posts)I know they didn't in 04 as it was a big deal.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Not endorsing Bush in 2004 is not the same opposing him either.
They are opposing Hagel.
Interesting article on this ... apparently they opposed Romney in 2008, then supported him in 2012.
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/10/23/1071511/log-cabin-republicans-endorse-romney-despite-previously-criticizing-his-anti-lgbt-record/
Again, they have ZERO credibility.
tblue
(16,350 posts)It is much maligned and yes it was terribly flawed, but at the time it was an attempt to stop witch hunts and to lift a total ban. It was a step forward at the time when the subject was considered very controversial. Newly elected President Clinton at first tried to just overturn the ban but got slapped back by Colin Powell and others. Having no military credentials to his name, he deferred to their judgment. In retrospect, not the optimum choice, but he was trying to do the right thing against great odds.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)about something Hagel said years ago while they still vote for other Republicans who continue to express the same or worse opinions. I don't get those people at all.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)It's all about protecting the Military-Industrial-Complex from the major cuts that will take place in the next two years. The big six media groups along with the Punditocracy are trying to control the news cycle. Were do you think the budget cuts are going to come from,nobody in their right mind is going to touch the third rail. You touch Social Security programs your toast and the Rethugs know this.
jenmito
(37,326 posts)written in their PLATFORM.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)They're gay REPUBLICANS and they're bashing someone for making anti-gay remarks?
Doesn't the fact that they're part of the party that blatantly disses gays at every turn sort of negate their ability to comment?
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)remind me of Clayton Bigsby.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)sakabatou
(42,174 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)had a skit where he played a blind black white supremecist. When he finally found out the truth, he divorced his wife of 20 years for marrying a black man.
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)graywarrior
(59,440 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)edited b/c i'm totally mixing her up with her more
fearsomely known sister
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)that the Log Cabin Republicans only seem to ever attack Democrats or Democratic nominees over their gay rights record while always conveniently ignoring the constant "in-your-face" bigotry and hostility towards any pro-gay rights legislation/policies by Republicans. I don't know of any elected Republicans whom support same-sex marriage, almost all of them voted to preserve DADT in 2010 (after initially filibustering repeal), and then a Democratic President nominates a former Republican Senator who made some anti-gay remarks (that he has since apologized for) and NOW they're upset?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)LCR, and get back to us.
Cha
(297,655 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)They weren't concerned about Romney being anti-gay just a few months ago but they're dead set against Chuck Hagel because he was on the wrong side of history nearly two decades ago????????
Cha
(297,655 posts)They come out NOW and give a s*** about people insulting Gays!
What they've done is Exposed their Hypocrisy.. Big Time.
NightOwwl
(5,453 posts)to be willing to destroy whatever was left of their credibility.