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alp227

(32,034 posts)
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:11 PM Jun 2013

McCain: Boston bombings proved Rand Paul wrong

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) suggested Sunday that fellow Republican Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.) hurt his credibility on fighting terrorism.

Asked by CNN’s Candy Crowley about Paul’s objection to the Obama administration’s surveillance programs, which McCain supports, McCain said Paul got it wrong in the runup to the Boston Marathon bombings.

“Just prior to the Boston bombing, he said the battlefield was no longer in America,” McCain said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “He’s the only one that voted that Iran must not be … contained in the pursuit of nuclear weapons. I disagree.”

McCain and Paul have found themselves on opposite sides of many foreign policy and terrorism-related issues. After Paul’s 13-hour filibuster of President Obama’s drone program earlier this year, McCain labeled Paul and fellow conservatives — including Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) — “wacko birds.”

full: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/06/09/mccain-boston-bombings-proved-rand-paul-wrong/

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McCain: Boston bombings proved Rand Paul wrong (Original Post) alp227 Jun 2013 OP
"wacko birds", I love it!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #1
Interesting police state argument here 90-percent Jun 2013 #2
The problem is the two brothers acted alone davidpdx Jun 2013 #3
Someone needs to post one of the scary McCain pictures davidpdx Jun 2013 #4

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
1. "wacko birds", I love it!!
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:35 PM
Jun 2013

No kidding, and now Cruz is trying to act like he never thought of running for President!!



Both of those prima donnas don't stand a chance to run for higher office under the harsh glaring sunlight.



90-percent

(6,829 posts)
2. Interesting police state argument here
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 04:15 PM
Jun 2013

Argument A - Our government takes away a few more layers of our Constitutional Rights and it still didn't prevent more terrorism - witness the Boston bombings. SO WHAT GOOD IS THIS "TOTAL INFORMATION AWARENESS" crap anyway?

Argument B - The Boston Bombing prove we don't yet have enough surveillance and the government should be allowed into all aspects of our privacy without question.



It just occurred to me that Argument B has been in force since 9-11. Which means we all need to fore-go even more basic rights if we're going to get serious about fighting terrorism.

-90% Jimmy

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
3. The problem is the two brothers acted alone
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:22 AM
Jun 2013

so they weren't exactly a lone wolf, but loan wolves. It is possible they didn't communicate about their plan in anyway that could have been picked up. Sure the government had a flag on the older brother, but no proof. If the government had picked him up with no proof people would be screaming. In this instance, there was no way to know what the two brothers were doing. Then when the government used crowd sourcing to find out who they were people flipped out (even though a large number of the pictures came from citizens who voluntary contributed the photos to help find them).

Is there a perfect balance? Probably not.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
4. Someone needs to post one of the scary McCain pictures
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:23 AM
Jun 2013

with the caption: "I'm going to eat you alive Rand Paul"

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