check in here if you think President Obama should NOT be impeached, even if you are mad as hell at

[LaydeeBug]

recent news.

There is more to find out here, and hopefully some changes will be made, but I, for one, refuse to kowtow to right winged, Carlyle Group posturing aimed at marginalizing my president.

FUUUUUUUUUCK that

[graham4anything]

1. I want to continue the agenda of President Obama forever and ever.

[LaydeeBug]

7. Now why would you go this far? I want to stop the things unconstitutional, but not illegal right now

Overstate much?

[trueblue2007]

25. me too but i want to see hillary president also

[graham4anything]

26. so do I. continuing the agenda moving forward and ahead.

Both are working on the same team

[Proud Liberal Dem]

2. Impeached? For what?

What law(s) has he broken? What "high crimes and misdemeanors" is he alleged to have engaged in? While we might not like the NSA spying, it appears- unless there is much more to the story- that it was legally done with warrants, FISA Court, etc. under the terms of the law as it currently stands. No wrongdoing has been unearthed re: Benghazi, IRS, AP, etc. either, so.......

[Frustratedlady]

6. Besides, RW snoops will be overjoyed to go back to their lair

and report that DUrs are talking impeachment.

Good grief!

[ailsagirl]

18. You took the words out of my mouth: "For WHAT?"

[MiniMe]

3. The other thread was locked

So people may not realize why you are posting this.

[LaydeeBug]

8. Oh I didn't know that, and it is why I posted this, because he has done nothing impeachable

and just saying so there was NEVER going to be enough.

Thank you for this

[MiniMe]

14. I agree

And I was one (not sure if there were others) who reported that post.

[MrSlayer]

4. Why should he be impeached? It's all legal.

Bush should have been impeached. But he wasn't and so we're stuck with this bullshit.

[Freddie]

5. My opinion is not popular here

But this crap has been going on for *years* and what's in the headlines now is yet another chapter in the Great Scandal Machine. Not enough to get the RWNJs foaming at the mouth, now they have to bring up the one issue that pisses off the Left, so we stay home (all goverment sucks!) in 2014 and let them continue their takeover of state governments. Gee, maybe we'll stay home enough so they can take over the Senate too.
We must focus on what's really important--taking back the States and Congress in 2014.

[Igel]

9. Silliness.

It's not a high crime. People just think anything that outrages them, legal or not, is a high crime. They lack perspective--"they" being "people." (Sometimes I wonder if I'm one. Or perhaps my serotonin levels shoud be checked?)

And how group dynamics work certainly makes the problem fester all the more.


As for marginalizing the President, you do a fine job. "My president," indeed. When the political opposition doesn't like him and says so, he's "the" President, the President of all Americans--but as soon as we get all defensive and protective of our li'l Barrykins he's "ours." Just like * was "their" President but seldom described as "ours," and most emphatically rejected as being "the President of all Americans." More silliness and accentuating group boundaries.

[TreasonousBastard]

10. Only a useless fucking moron would bring up impeachment...

over this.

Or, perhaps, an operative spreading mischief across the land.

[femmocrat]

11. There is no chance of impeachment.

Ain't gonna happen even if the repukes get down on their knees and pray reeeeal hard.

[Kath1]

12. No impeachment!

No way! If anyone should have been impeached, it should have been Bush for lying this country into war. I still support President Obama.

[dmosh42]

13. This is Repuke attempt to take focus off their useless agenda from the wacko leaders of the GOP!

[busterbrown]

15. Keep carrying this further and you can watch the

Chris Christie inauguration some 2 1/2 years from now.

[LaydeeBug]

24. Uh bull. Honestly. If we're doomed to an (R), CITIZENS UNITED will have much MUCH more to do

with it than my little post here at DU. I fucking PROMISE you.

[LaydeeBug]

30. It seems to me you need to practice what you preach my dear...

Since CITIZENS UNITED *will* indeed have more influence on upcoming elections than any post I could write here on DU. I do apologize if REALITY is hard for you, but wisdom accompanies MATURITY. Good luck!

[LaydeeBug]

32. Maybe read post #8 and stfu. kthanks nt

[sinkingfeeling]

16. For what?

[Jamaal510]

17. I'll bet that

our RW lurkers have been getting massive erections this past week at the sight of the circular firing squad over the NSA non-scandal. It's embarrassing that so many DUers have jumped to conclusions over just one article, even as the story is still unraveling. All this garbage here comparing Obama to Bush ll and calling him a liar is not exactly what I'd expect to see on a Democratic website. If I wanted to see that type of crap, I'd go to FreeRepublic or Stormfront.

[Gabby Hayes]

19. Amen. Onward through the electronic fog

The NSA story has been shaking out since before President Obama was born. There are still people who think the NSA illegally withheld prior knowledge of the Sputnik launch in order to jolt Americans into joining the space race.

Besides, the bad guys are dealing with a chess master who hasn't done anything wrong. The IRS deal is already blowing up in the Tea Party and GOP's face, and there is still the little matter of war crimes hanging over Dubya, Cheney and the gang. That's not to mention the possibility that Poppy and John Poindexter could get toasted by a special prosecutor over past NSA/CIA crimes. Any cheap shot impeachment attempt by The House has minus-zero chances in The Senate and would unleash the full fury of the voters. The Republicans would get destroyed in 2014 and the Democrats would spend the next two years taxing the Koch Brothers and Romney, passing environmental and gun control legislation, and reopening Watergate, the Kennedy Assassination, IraqGate and the other unsolved Republican mysteries. By 2016 there would no Republicans left to vote for what's his name.

And just for the fun of it, every Democrat in the United States would auto-dial Boehner and Issa every 30 minutes for the rest of their lives.

[Cha]

20. Nah, PBO's not going to be impeached about Benghazi, IRS,

.. there was some other Scamdal in there but I forget now.. or Leaks from Leaker.

thanks LaydeeBug

[davidpdx]

21. I do not want him to get impeached

But I firmly believe the Republicans are going to take a shot at it and see if they can get any disaffect Ds in the Senate to vote for a conviction. We know for a fact they can get the charges through the House, that only takes a simple majority. I think it would be near impossible to get the 67 in the Senate unless something else comes out. Given all the Faux scandals I would expect this to continue for awhile.

[baldguy]

22. Some smart DC politician should use this news to push through the repeal of the PATRIOT Act.

[bigwillq]

23. There's no reason for him to be impeached

Never been a huge Obama fan since he decided to run, but don't feel he should be impeached.

[meow2u3]

27. Obama, AFAIK, has done nothing to justify impeachment

All the "scandals" consist of actions that are barely legal, though morally wrong (the NSA), have turned out to blow up in the face of the accusers (does the IRS "scandal" ring a bell?), or outright conspiracy theories.

The NSA flap can easily be resolved either by Congress passing legislation to repeal all or part of the Patriot Act, or challenged in court as an unconstitutional search or seizure. It seems to me as if the repukes don't want to repeal laws allowing for massive spying; they don't want Democratic Presidents, especially those who aren't 100% Caucasian, to exercise such authority.

[Zoeisright]

28. For what?

Christ on a crutch, I didn't think that was even a question. Jesus. Calm the fuck down.

[LaydeeBug]

31. Did you READ THIS THREAD BEFORE YOU PUKED ALL OVER IT?

Perhaps I suggest you READ FOR COMPREHENSION NEXT TIME.

Holy. fucking. cow. The stupid!! It burns.