2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWHAT'S THE CONSERVATIVE POSITION ON ZIMMERMAN? WHAT'S THE LIBERAL POSITION?
The Zimmerman trial gets more play on political talk shows and political forums than any other topic, but why is it even considered to be political?
There was an altercation, someone was shot dead, and there are various accounts, opinions, and speculation about what happened that will be sorted out in a court of law.
Yet some people are saying it's political and that the Republican position is innocent, while the Democratic position is guilty.
It seems to me that the conservative position has always been that Zimmerman is innocent and that the liberal position is to let the courts decide.
Which of these positions would the Founding Fathers have taken? Innocent, guilty, or let the courts decide?
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)about a black person being shot? Gee. I wonder.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
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SoutherDem
(2,307 posts)is my answer.
From the day it made the national media the two sides took their positions no matter any evidence and haven't swayed one bit.
However I can't agree the liberal side has been let the courts decide, it seem to me they feel he is guilty, I have heard a few who says he committed murder 1 because it was part of a master plan where he went hunting that day and Martin just happened to be the prey which walked across his crosshairs.
Check YouTube videos by the Young Turks and Thom Hartmann and notice how their views changed as more information came out.
otohara
(24,135 posts)instead of 45 days later. Being all chummy with the cops helped him out too.
The national media always takes sides in these big media trials - They thought
Casey Anthony was guilty, OJ was guilty...Was justice served in these two trials?
Aristus
(66,389 posts)'Stand Your Ground' laws, and that due to the abuse or misapplication of the law, they may be repealed. I don't see that actually happening (gun nuts gotta be gun nuts), but they're worried that it will.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)If police had arrested Zippie immediately, the case would not have been much of a national issue.
Created the whole mess from moment one.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts).... and defended Zimmerman.
While Al Sharpton & Lawrence O'Donnell have done the reverse.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)quite frankly if i were on the jury i would be considering the evidence and my vote could go either way.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)If the prosecution can't prove its case, Zimmerman will walk, as it should be. But even if he does walk, we have to consider that our current laws allowed Zimmerman to get out of his car and stalk Martin with a loaded weapon. Maybe Zimmerman wanted a confrontation so he could use that weapon and maybe he didn't. But either way, he got a confrontation. That signals to anyone who wants a confrontation that you can get one and get off scott free.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)from a thug.
Liberal: Zimmy is a "cop wanna be" who decided the black kid was a "suspect" in a nonexistent crime, and was sure that he'd become a hero by apprehending said "suspect".
polichick
(37,152 posts)Liberal: Whatever happened to the gains of the 1960s?
Kingofalldems
(38,459 posts)That says it all.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)The conservative position is that all blacks who wear a hood in public should be shot and killed.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)its supposed to be about facts only. i dont care for anyone on either side that wants to play politics with this.