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polichick

(37,152 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:09 PM Jul 2013

I Think President Obama Should Hire Ed Snowden

The administration could use some smart Americans who still remember what this country was supposed to be about.

Bring him home and use him (along with plenty of others) to help find a Constitutional balance between citizen rights and security.

It's not surprising that Snowden has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Maybe it's time for President Obama to build the Department of Peace that Dems used to dream about and earn his premature Nobel Peace Prize.



I know, I know, all this is unrealistic and beyond unlikely - but so was the idea of America and its Constitution in the first place.

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I Think President Obama Should Hire Ed Snowden (Original Post) polichick Jul 2013 OP
Obama believes "We Have Struck The Appropriate Balance" Of Privacy And Security Eric J in MN Jul 2013 #1
His poll numbers show that the people don't agree - maybe he'll remember... polichick Jul 2013 #2
The only response I an summon to this collection of nonsense... gcomeau Jul 2013 #3
Try not to hurt yourself - easier just to think. polichick Jul 2013 #4
Reading that post hurt *because* I think. -eom gcomeau Jul 2013 #5
Thinking people can discuss without bashing their heads into walls. polichick Jul 2013 #6
The emoticon exists for a reason. gcomeau Jul 2013 #7
LOL - stirring the shit a little always outs a few. polichick Jul 2013 #8
One guy nominated Snowden for the Nobel. railsback Jul 2013 #9
And that one man's sentiments are shared by many. Laelth Jul 2013 #10
Is it? One guy out of thousands of eligible nominators? railsback Jul 2013 #14
How many nominated Obama? former9thward Jul 2013 #18
I think President Obama should put Ed Snowden to jail illegaloperation Jul 2013 #11
Sorry, we already tried that. He worked for the US before he went to Booz Allen. pnwmom Jul 2013 #12
Uh.............. Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2013 #13
They're doing all kinds of illegal shit. JoeyT Jul 2013 #15
That's why I think the president should hire Snowden... polichick Jul 2013 #16
K&R n/t bobthedrummer Jul 2013 #17
I don't. Chan790 Jul 2013 #19
Rush Limbaugh was also nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize, and he had precisely ... 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #20
Snowden would have to take a $100,000/yr pay cut. Drahthaardogs Jul 2013 #21

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
1. Obama believes "We Have Struck The Appropriate Balance" Of Privacy And Security
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:14 PM
Jul 2013

"I came into office committed to protecting the American people, but also committed to our values and our ideals. And one of our highest ideals is civil liberties and privacy. And I was a critic of the previous administration for those occasions in which I felt they had violated our values, and I came in with a healthy skepticism about how our various programs were structured. But what I have been able to do is examine and scrub how our intelligence services are operating, and I’m confident that at this point, we have struck the appropriate balance..."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/06/19/obama_on_nsa_spying_we_have_struck_the_appropriate_balance_of_privacy_and_security.html

From Obama's point-of-view, he's already fixed anything broken about spying.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
2. His poll numbers show that the people don't agree - maybe he'll remember...
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:16 PM
Jul 2013

some of his own campaign speeches.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
7. The emoticon exists for a reason.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jul 2013

It was an entirely appropriate characterization of the impulse your string of nonsensical statements inspired, distilled into it's simplest form.

Discussing either the ridiculous proposal that someone who committed espionage against their own nation should be hired by it or that Snowden warranted nominatation for the Peace Prize would be as large a waste of time and energy as continuing this conversation any further would be... so see you around. I'm out.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
10. And that one man's sentiments are shared by many.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:01 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:27 PM - Edit history (1)

And you know it.

Lame argument.

-Laelth

illegaloperation

(260 posts)
11. I think President Obama should put Ed Snowden to jail
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:03 PM
Jul 2013

Snowden has already gave copies of all the documents he has to those around him.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
12. Sorry, we already tried that. He worked for the US before he went to Booz Allen.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jul 2013

With employees like that we don't need enemies.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,436 posts)
13. Uh..............
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:23 PM
Jul 2013


My whole feeling about this whole situation is this: If what Snowden exposed is "illegal" or "unconstitutional", then people need to put their money where their mouths are and push for impeachment of President Obama and/or criminal charges for anybody involved in illegal activities within the NSA.

If it's a matter of just "not liking" what the NSA is doing, then we need to get Congress to change the laws and/or elect new people to change the laws. It's sort of bizarre that Congress has been passing laws about surveillance since 2001 and, although there have some people protesting them all along, it strikes me as weird that some people are acting as though it's so much worse under President Obama than it was, say, under Bush, who WAS actually operating outside the confines of the law as it existed at the time.

As for Snowden, he has been lawfully charged with a crime (it is still a crime to take classified information and potentially disseminate it) and should return home, lawyer up, and fight the charges if his cause is just and proper.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
15. They're doing all kinds of illegal shit.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:35 AM
Jul 2013

That's not a reason to push for impeachment, it's a reason to push for the illegal shit to stop.

Just as an example, double tapping is a war crime.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
16. That's why I think the president should hire Snowden...
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:46 AM
Jul 2013

It would be a bold move - probably even dangerous - but would indicate his intention to stop the "illegal shit" and show the country that it's not only high level war criminals and banksters that are given a pass sometimes, but patriotic whistleblowers who have the interests of the American people and our Constitution at heart.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
19. I don't.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 08:31 PM
Jul 2013

I think we should expend all resources necessary to return, convict in a fair trial in open court and ultimately imprison Snowden in Florence ADX between Ames and Hanssen in the same wing as Kaczynski and Manning until the day he stops breathing of his own accord. (None of them should ever breathe a breath as a free and unimprisoned man ever again.)

Any other course of action by this or any subsequent regime is a betrayal of US security and a mockery of US laws that does nothing but encourage the next traitorous fuckwit.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
20. Rush Limbaugh was also nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize, and he had precisely ...
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:08 PM
Jul 2013

the same chance of winning as does Snowden.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
21. Snowden would have to take a $100,000/yr pay cut.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jul 2013

As a Booze Allen Hamilton Contract employee to the U.S. Government, he made over $200,000/yr. He has a GED and no college degree but gets paid better than all federal employees, with the exception of Senators, Supreme Court Justices, and the Executive Branch.

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