"Slap Hillary in the Face" Guy Has Close Connections to VA House Speaker Bill Howell (R)

[lowkell]

Why am I note surprised at any of this, from the "war on women" party?

http://bluevirginia.us/diary/9882/slap-hillary-in-the-face-guy-has-close-connections-to-va-house-speaker-howell-rep-wittman

[Beacool]

1. No more sexist and classless than some of the the crap I read right here at DU.

When it comes to Hillary and Bill, some forget their common decency.

[Koios]

2. Hmmm?

I'm not seeing sexism. Mostly I've read stuff about not creating a Clinton dynasty, politically. And that's namism not sexism, and perhaps a sign of Hillary's greatest hurdle: Bill Clinton's diminished brand / reputation.

The Monica thing forced Gore to distance himself from the Clinton successes, which we paid for, with 8 years of Bush.

Then in 2008, Hillary lacked a vision much beyond, it's my turn, as if she was heir apparent and deserving of it on its face. I think she's better today, and has some vision, not to mention was a rock star Sec State. But Bill was off the chain in 2008, and made a joke of himself, creating some fatigue among Dem Primary Voters, who tired of Clinton and yearn for new blood, akin to Obama, but perhaps one who better advances progressive ideals, and does not merely speak to them in ways that bring us to our knees, only later to become center-right and every bit as pro Wall Street as we'd expect Bush or even Romney to be.

In short, we're fed up with Clinton adoration, and want someone who does what Obama only talks about. At least that's my take on it.

[Beacool]

3. I'm not going to rehash 2008, but Hillary had a vision.

A realistic vision, she wasn't promising a lot of B.S. and giving vague speeches about hope and change. Hope and change to what is still the question.

If you didn't see then and don't see now the sexism, then you are not looking hard enough. There's a thread right here on this site that is sexist (although it's supposed to be meant as satire).

[Koios]

4. Gotcha ...

... visions are realistic is you agree and unrealistic if you disagree, but no matter.

What vision?

[Always Randy]

5. Clinton populatity at 70%

Gallup poll showed Clinton with nearly 70 percent approval ratings — the highest he has ever recorded in two decades on the public opinion roller coaster.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/bill-clinton-paradox-92948.html#ixzz2bDdaFe2F

I don't think this is the guy to throw under the bus

[Koios]

6. I'm not throwing Bill under ...

... the bus or anything else. Nor overthinking ex-presidents' approval, since it's goes up historically when asked very generally "do you approve of [ex-president]?" Bush 43, too, has far better approval than he did when leaving office.

But the fact remains, "Clinton" the name/brand has some negatives, too, among Dem Primary Voters, not to mention, many, me included, who've had enough of DLC-types, especially since Obama has proven so disappointing in not reforming Wall Street, but instead being their strongest ally in government.

[Robbins]

7. Hillary

Time to accept reality Is she Is likely the 2016 Democratic nominee and probally the next president.

I prefer to live In reality.And republicans going crazy about her only helps her.