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Is Julian Assange that naive about what Ron Paul and his dedication to” Objectivism” actually means? (Original Post) busterbrown Aug 2013 OP
Assange is right about one thing (maybe unwittingly)... CJCRANE Aug 2013 #1
Anthem Blue Cross will match any Exchange set up by the Affordable Healthcare Act... busterbrown Aug 2013 #3
RP is not an objectivist. mr_liberal Aug 2013 #2
Same thing!! Both suck!! n/t busterbrown Aug 2013 #4
Maybe you should start a Ron Paul and sons messageboard for Mr. Assange? He has a lot of free time. Sunlei Aug 2013 #5
Actually I’m trying to goad the paulpots to my thread right now.. busterbrown Aug 2013 #6
They really need a messageboard. surprised that Ron Paul/kid never let his minions have one. Sunlei Aug 2013 #7
It's "goad" Arkana Aug 2013 #11
Too much coffee..Thanks busterbrown Aug 2013 #13
He's Australian, I doubt he cares. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #8
He certainly cared about our response to his leaks.... busterbrown Aug 2013 #9
Right, but why should he give a shit about Ron Paul? bemildred Aug 2013 #10
But he is seen by many here as an admirable human being... And I also thought this at the start. busterbrown Aug 2013 #15
Anybody can come here, the only question is how long you can stay. bemildred Aug 2013 #16
Have a decaf RudynJack Aug 2013 #19
My problem with him is that leftynyc Aug 2013 #20
Anyone who has heard (Ayn) Rand Paul discussed in the last six months Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #12
Exactly....Another dumb blond?? busterbrown Aug 2013 #14
He's not naive. He's supported right-wing politicians in Australia. pnwmom Aug 2013 #17
For the love of god davidpdx Aug 2013 #18
Ever notice Wikileaks only attacks leaders that the CIA wants to removed? Vic Vinegar Aug 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Vic Vinegar Aug 2013 #22
I can't believe Julian doesn't get what completeyl selfish opportunists are the Pauls. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #23
Assange is asshole.. and he's never really been successful at hiding it.. Cha Aug 2013 #24
2012 was a bad year for Anonymous. Dozens of hackers got arrested. joshcryer Aug 2013 #25
Dunno. I've never given a shit about Assange's politics. Or Assange. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #26

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. Assange is right about one thing (maybe unwittingly)...
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:16 PM
Aug 2013

that is the MSM are more likely to run with a story if a RW Libertarian promotes it.

So if you can find a way to repackage liberal ideas as libertarian...

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
3. Anthem Blue Cross will match any Exchange set up by the Affordable Healthcare Act...
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:20 PM
Aug 2013

How about that!!

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
6. Actually I’m trying to goad the paulpots to my thread right now..
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:33 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:09 PM - Edit history (1)

I just love when they’re around..Especially when they get into their State’s Right banter...

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. They really need a messageboard. surprised that Ron Paul/kid never let his minions have one.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:47 PM
Aug 2013

thought he was supposed to be a 'freedom of speech person' for more than just him.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
9. He certainly cared about our response to his leaks....
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:07 PM
Aug 2013

By the way Whistle Blowing is gonna become more and more important to our survival as tome passes..
My opinion only..

My problem with Julian is that he is backing a dangerous part of our political system..

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
15. But he is seen by many here as an admirable human being... And I also thought this at the start.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:15 PM
Aug 2013

However Ron Paul reeks nothing but greed and slight of hand...

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
16. Anybody can come here, the only question is how long you can stay.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:17 PM
Aug 2013

I've seen lots of non-progressive opinion here, I post it sometimes myself. So what?

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
12. Anyone who has heard (Ayn) Rand Paul discussed in the last six months
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:24 PM
Aug 2013

will have clearly noticed his sometimes immediate self-contradiction on important matters (drone strikes on US citizens, for one). Even Code Pink fell for him for a moment because he was talking talk, but in the end, it is easy to understand that he and his father are nothing but opportunists seeking to gain followers to aid their planned ascent to power.

How could Julian have missed this?

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
17. He's not naive. He's supported right-wing politicians in Australia.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 04:13 AM
Aug 2013

He's not a progressive. Whatever he is. . . .

http://ausvotes2013.com/2013/08/18/the-wikileaks-party-lurches-to-the-right-preferences-fascists-mens-righters-and-gun-lovers-above-the-greens/

WED AUG 21 2013: Assange’s running-mate has resigned as a Wikileaks Party candidate over this issue.

NOTE: After adding 4 updates, this story was getting messy so I have totally re-arranged it and added more info. The most recent version before this update is here.

Just two days after Wikileaks Party Senate candidate for Victoria, Julian Assange, raised eyebrows by praising US anti-abortion politicians Ron Paul and Senator Rand Paul, the Wikileaks Party revealed a new attempt to appeal to the far Right. In official election tickets lodged with the Australian Electoral Commission, they have said they want the fascist Australia First Party, the pro-shooting-in-National-Parks Shooters and Fishers Party , and the “mens rights activist” Non-Custodial Parents Party to win a seat instead of the Australian Greens. In New South Wales, if you take the easy option and just tick the Wikileaks Party box in the Senate, and if they don’t win, your vote will go to those three right-wing parties before it goes to the Greens. One of the parties Assange is preferencing above the Greens, the Shooters and Fishers Party, already has two members serving in the State parliament in New South Wales today, who got elected by taking advantage of other parties’ votes. (See here for more background detail on how Australia’s complex system of interlocking preference deals can get tiny parties elected).

This decision has provoked open hostility from the Greens on Twitter. Greens NSW State parliamentarian Jeremy Buckingham attacked the decision early in the day, and Greens Senator from Western Australia, Scott Ludlam, who has staunchly stood up for Assange’s legal rights despite Assange being wanted for questioning on sexual assault matters in Sweden, also regards Wikileaks’ decision to preference him below the National Party in Western Australia as hostile. Wikileaks Party candidate Gerry Georgatos, who defended this decision, said that the National Party is defintely not going to win a seat in WA, and therefore the Greens will get to use Wikileaks Party votes. However there is a strong argument against that position, and Ludlam rejects it, saying Georgatos has risked handing control of the Senate to the conservative Liberal/National Coalition.

SNIP

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
18. For the love of god
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:07 AM
Aug 2013

How can you talk about Assange that way? We should be bowing before him licking his feet.

Oh, you are going straight to DU hell for that one....

Vic Vinegar

(80 posts)
21. Ever notice Wikileaks only attacks leaders that the CIA wants to removed?
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:15 PM
Aug 2013

Ever notice Wikileaks only attacks leaders that the CIA wants to removed?

Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Cha

(297,154 posts)
24. Assange is asshole.. and he's never really been successful at hiding it..
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 03:26 AM
Aug 2013
"Anonymous “appalled” by WikiLeaks"

snip//

By Natasha Lennard - Oct 12, 2012

"...We have been worried about the direction WikiLeaks is going for sometime now. In the past year the focus has moved away from actual leaks and the fight for freedom of information and concentrated more and more on Julian Assange and a rabid scrounging for money," the hackers noted.

In an accompanying (and similar) statement posted online, Anonymous added, "WikiLeaks is not – or should not be – about Julian Assange alone." The hackers explained that despite a steadfast belief that the controversial WikiLeaks founder should not be extradited to the United States, they have grown weary of the attention paid to Assange:"

h/t fresh http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023511903#post37

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
25. 2012 was a bad year for Anonymous. Dozens of hackers got arrested.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 04:31 AM
Aug 2013

That article goes on to note this, of course.

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