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Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:11 PM

Is Julian Assange that naive about what Ron Paul and his dedication to” Objectivism” actually means?

It leads to shit which whistleblowers reveal...

He is a real idiot!!! Is it always about the money?


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/17/tennessee-republican-tells-girl-her-father-has-to-be-deported-as-tea-party-crowd-cheers/

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Reply Is Julian Assange that naive about what Ron Paul and his dedication to” Objectivism” actually means? (Original post)
busterbrown Aug 2013 OP
CJCRANE Aug 2013 #1
busterbrown Aug 2013 #3
mr_liberal Aug 2013 #2
busterbrown Aug 2013 #4
Sunlei Aug 2013 #5
busterbrown Aug 2013 #6
Sunlei Aug 2013 #7
Arkana Aug 2013 #11
busterbrown Aug 2013 #13
bemildred Aug 2013 #8
busterbrown Aug 2013 #9
bemildred Aug 2013 #10
busterbrown Aug 2013 #15
bemildred Aug 2013 #16
RudynJack Aug 2013 #19
leftynyc Aug 2013 #20
Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #12
busterbrown Aug 2013 #14
pnwmom Aug 2013 #17
davidpdx Aug 2013 #18
Vic Vinegar Aug 2013 #21
Vic Vinegar Aug 2013 #22
Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #23
Cha Aug 2013 #24
joshcryer Aug 2013 #25
winter is coming Aug 2013 #26

Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:16 PM

1. Assange is right about one thing (maybe unwittingly)...

that is the MSM are more likely to run with a story if a RW Libertarian promotes it.

So if you can find a way to repackage liberal ideas as libertarian...

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:20 PM

3. Anthem Blue Cross will match any Exchange set up by the Affordable Healthcare Act...

How about that!!

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:19 PM

2. RP is not an objectivist.

 

He's a confederate.

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Response to mr_liberal (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:21 PM

4. Same thing!! Both suck!! n/t

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:28 PM

5. Maybe you should start a Ron Paul and sons messageboard for Mr. Assange? He has a lot of free time.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:33 PM

6. Actually I’m trying to goad the paulpots to my thread right now..

Last edited Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:09 PM - Edit history (1)

I just love when they’re around..Especially when they get into their State’s Right banter...

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:47 PM

7. They really need a messageboard. surprised that Ron Paul/kid never let his minions have one.

thought he was supposed to be a 'freedom of speech person' for more than just him.

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:05 PM

11. It's "goad"

and I'll thank you not to sully the good name of Dr. Paul, SIR.

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Response to Arkana (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:08 PM

13. Too much coffee..Thanks

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:02 PM

8. He's Australian, I doubt he cares. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:07 PM

9. He certainly cared about our response to his leaks....

By the way Whistle Blowing is gonna become more and more important to our survival as tome passes..
My opinion only..

My problem with Julian is that he is backing a dangerous part of our political system..

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:08 PM

10. Right, but why should he give a shit about Ron Paul?

Paul is our mess, we need to clean it up.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:15 PM

15. But he is seen by many here as an admirable human being... And I also thought this at the start.

However Ron Paul reeks nothing but greed and slight of hand...

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #15)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:17 PM

16. Anybody can come here, the only question is how long you can stay.

I've seen lots of non-progressive opinion here, I post it sometimes myself. So what?

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:45 AM

19. Have a decaf

It's "sleight" of hand.

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:55 PM

20. My problem with him is that

 

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:24 PM

12. Anyone who has heard (Ayn) Rand Paul discussed in the last six months

 

will have clearly noticed his sometimes immediate self-contradiction on important matters (drone strikes on US citizens, for one). Even Code Pink fell for him for a moment because he was talking talk, but in the end, it is easy to understand that he and his father are nothing but opportunists seeking to gain followers to aid their planned ascent to power.

How could Julian have missed this?

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:11 PM

14. Exactly....Another dumb blond??

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 04:13 AM

17. He's not naive. He's supported right-wing politicians in Australia.

He's not a progressive. Whatever he is. . . .

http://ausvotes2013.com/2013/08/18/the-wikileaks-party-lurches-to-the-right-preferences-fascists-mens-righters-and-gun-lovers-above-the-greens/

WED AUG 21 2013: Assange’s running-mate has resigned as a Wikileaks Party candidate over this issue.

NOTE: After adding 4 updates, this story was getting messy so I have totally re-arranged it and added more info. The most recent version before this update is here.

Just two days after Wikileaks Party Senate candidate for Victoria, Julian Assange, raised eyebrows by praising US anti-abortion politicians Ron Paul and Senator Rand Paul, the Wikileaks Party revealed a new attempt to appeal to the far Right. In official election tickets lodged with the Australian Electoral Commission, they have said they want the fascist Australia First Party, the pro-shooting-in-National-Parks Shooters and Fishers Party , and the “mens rights activist” Non-Custodial Parents Party to win a seat instead of the Australian Greens. In New South Wales, if you take the easy option and just tick the Wikileaks Party box in the Senate, and if they don’t win, your vote will go to those three right-wing parties before it goes to the Greens. One of the parties Assange is preferencing above the Greens, the Shooters and Fishers Party, already has two members serving in the State parliament in New South Wales today, who got elected by taking advantage of other parties’ votes. (See here for more background detail on how Australia’s complex system of interlocking preference deals can get tiny parties elected).

This decision has provoked open hostility from the Greens on Twitter. Greens NSW State parliamentarian Jeremy Buckingham attacked the decision early in the day, and Greens Senator from Western Australia, Scott Ludlam, who has staunchly stood up for Assange’s legal rights despite Assange being wanted for questioning on sexual assault matters in Sweden, also regards Wikileaks’ decision to preference him below the National Party in Western Australia as hostile. Wikileaks Party candidate Gerry Georgatos, who defended this decision, said that the National Party is defintely not going to win a seat in WA, and therefore the Greens will get to use Wikileaks Party votes. However there is a strong argument against that position, and Ludlam rejects it, saying Georgatos has risked handing control of the Senate to the conservative Liberal/National Coalition.

SNIP

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:07 AM

18. For the love of god

How can you talk about Assange that way? We should be bowing before him licking his feet.

Oh, you are going straight to DU hell for that one....

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:15 PM

21. Ever notice Wikileaks only attacks leaders that the CIA wants to removed?

Ever notice Wikileaks only attacks leaders that the CIA wants to removed?

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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:41 AM

23. I can't believe Julian doesn't get what completeyl selfish opportunists are the Pauls. n/t

 

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sat Aug 24, 2013, 03:26 AM

24. Assange is asshole.. and he's never really been successful at hiding it..

"Anonymous “appalled” by WikiLeaks"

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By Natasha Lennard - Oct 12, 2012

"...We have been worried about the direction WikiLeaks is going for sometime now. In the past year the focus has moved away from actual leaks and the fight for freedom of information and concentrated more and more on Julian Assange and a rabid scrounging for money," the hackers noted.

In an accompanying (and similar) statement posted online, Anonymous added, "WikiLeaks is not – or should not be – about Julian Assange alone." The hackers explained that despite a steadfast belief that the controversial WikiLeaks founder should not be extradited to the United States, they have grown weary of the attention paid to Assange:"

h/t fresh http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023511903#post37

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Response to Cha (Reply #24)

Sat Aug 24, 2013, 04:31 AM

25. 2012 was a bad year for Anonymous. Dozens of hackers got arrested.

That article goes on to note this, of course.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:33 PM

26. Dunno. I've never given a shit about Assange's politics. Or Assange. n/t

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