2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGOP prepares to self-destruct over nonsense
The conservative movement seems dead-set on tearing itself apart over "defunding Obamacare," an imaginary gimmick
BY ALEX SEITZ-WALD
Call it a kamikaze mission, a circular firing squad, or an escalating civil war, but either way, break out the popcorn and grab a seat as the conservative movement tears itself apart over the doomed scheme to shut down the government unless Obamacare is defunded.
Time is running out to stop the law, with a key provision set to go into effect on Oct. 1, so a handful of Tea Party senators led by Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Mike Lee have been engaging in last-ditch brinksmanship to defund it: Refuse to appropriate more money for government operations unless Obama and his fellow Democrats delay the health law. Of course Obama will never do that, but the troika of Republicans are so hell-bent on their plan anyway that theyre accusing their fellow Republicans of ideological treason if they dont clamor on board the ill-fated fire ship.
And today thing are getting really ugly as outside groups move in with the artillery. The Washington Posts Aaron Blake reports that Heritage Action, the activist wing of the conservative think tank, along with Tea Party Patriots and another conservative group are starting to run online ads targeting a dozen GOP senators and 100 mostly Republican House members who either oppose or havent signed onto the defund-or-shut down effort. The groups are also launching a bus tour to several of the states represented by the targeted senators. Heritage alone is putting up $550,000 for the effort a major sum for an non-election political ad campaign.
Never mind that staunch conservatives like Sen. Ron Johnson have called the gambit next to impossible, or that Republican Sen. Richard Burr called it the dumbest idea Ive ever heard of. The Tea Partys message remains youre either with us or against us. Dont join the defunding effort? That means you support Obamas health law, they say. Its like healthcare McCarthyism, with communism replaced by Obamacare.
full article:
http://www.salon.com/2013/08/20/gop_prepares_to_self_destruct_over_nonsense/
Nay
(12,051 posts)breath. It seems that as dumb as they get, there's always someone dumber to vote for them.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)The GOP can always do with this what they did in January. Allow a vote where the vast majority of the democrats vote for sanity, and they peel off 20 or so GOP members and pass something, and the tea party nutjobs can scream bloody murder. And the following Monday it'll be back to the status quo.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)GOP: Gripe Or Pout
tularetom
(23,664 posts)I'm afraid the Dems may be in the process of self destruction over government surveillance.
So it may not acheive the result we want to see.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The Democratic Party has its own issues of internal strife concerning Surveillence, secret TPP, and XL Pipeline. And its no longer a given that the liberal wing of the party can be bullied into going along.
ellie
(6,929 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,454 posts)them a little welcome with a 'Don't Repeal My Healthcare' counter protest.
Lisa D
(1,532 posts)Actions count!
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)thanks for the local stimulus money, republican 'we're not political charities'
By the way your tea party paid leader 'suits' look worn out and shabby. Better ask the 'charity' for more $$$$$.
Filibuster Harry
(666 posts)healthcare for all -- bullshit!! They have had their chances if they were really for that but they are not.
Yeah -- they are for us americans. Wake up america!! The Rs are obstructionists. They want to starve the
beast which in turn will starve states and cities and then in order for states and cities to survive there will be so drastic of cuts or drastic tax increases that this country will start to look like a third world nation. They only want to have a strong military presence and hope that the middle and poor class by not having any money or job will have to sign up in our military.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Tippy
(4,610 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)but they keep on going and controlling the house and senate.