GOP senator says Obama 'close' to impeachment. True?

[dusty trails]

On Wednesday, Senator Coburn told a meeting of 300 constituents in Muskogee, Okla., that the Obama administration is “lawless” and that Mr. Obama himself is “getting perilously close” to the constitutional standard for impeachment.

[lamp_shade]

1. What do you think, dusty trails?

[monmouth3]

4. A little too transparent for a newbie doncha think?..Bwahahaha...

[dusty trails]

25. Bwahahaha...

WTF ?

[dusty trails]

24. What do I think ?

Personally, I think the right wingers are a bunch of retards who hate the President because he's black,
and they'll do everything legally or illegally to get him out of office.

However, I don't think the tea baggers have a snow balls chance in Hell of impeaching President Obama.

But hey, that's just my personal opinion.

[CreekDog]

29. R-word

closer to the drain than I thought.

[BeyondGeography]

2. Worth a read

Grandstanding for the goofball base on summer vacation.

[giftedgirl77]

3. Not according to the article you linked to.

The only ones pushing this bullshit is the wingnuts who still think the POTUS was born in Kenya.

Wishful thinking at its best.

[liberal N proud]

5. All it took was a blow job and they impeached Clinton

I am sure the republican standards for wasting Americas time to impeach Obama are far lower. I doubt they will be able to get a blow job on Obama.

[demwing]

6. You know Clinton didn't get impeached over a blowjob, right?

The charges were perjury and obstruction of justice.

[BlueMTexpat]

9. About a blowjob ...

give me a break! If those constitute "high crimes and misdemeanors," then nearly every person in Congress was also guilty.

[demwing]

10. You are trying to convince the wrong dude

I'm not judging, just clarifying

[BlueMTexpat]

15. No prob --

just general frustration with the state of things in the US and how the RW GOP continue successfully to bamboozle the country with the projection of their own hypocrisies and foibles onto everyone else's behavior.

[demwing]

17. I totally agree, but...

Clinton, despite his post-presidency glow, was a flawed POTUS. He made some poor choices on policy, and some poor choice in his personal life.

They couldn't take his down on one, so they tried the other. He was cornered into having a shit choice - lie, or admit the truth and destroy his family - but the cold fact is that if Clinton had not lied, he never would have been impeached. Or, if he had, it would have had much less impact on the Party, and on the American political landscape.

Obviously, the public didn't give much of a damn about his affair, and lying did no good at all. The truth was outed. Was his fate fair? Nope, but it is what it is, and Clinton has to own that.

[BlueMTexpat]

19. While I agree with most of what you say, I don't

believe that this statement is necessarily true: "... the cold fact is that if Clinton had not lied, he never would have been impeached."

From the moment that Newt and his merry minions took charge of the House in 1994, impeaching Clinton was at the top of their agenda. Had it not been for the god-given opportunity provided by Clinton's lying about his blowjob, they would have found yet another - equally disproportionate - reason, just as their ilk are flailing about desperately for some reason to impeach Prez O.

Insofar as Clinton's being a "flawed POTUS," he joins a long line of flawed POTUSES. In fact, I cannot think of a single POTUS, even among those I most admire, who was not "flawed" in some way. The difference is in the quality and degree of the flaws and who among us have been most harmed by them.

There are two Presidents in recent years whom I consider to have been more than "flawed," but truly catastrophic. One is Saint Ronnie and the other is Dim Son.

[demwing]

20. well...NAFTA

how many have been harmed by that steamer?

[BlueMTexpat]

21. I don't disagree, but

you still haven't been able to name a "perfect" POTUS. Because none exists.

Had President Gore been allowed to accept the nomination in 2000, I believe that many of NAFTA's worst effects could and would have been mitigated or re-legislated. Don't forget that the catastrophic administration of Dim Son let - even encouraged - all the worst to happen. Everywhere. For eight full years.

Free trade zones are, in principle, good ideas, viz. the EU, which initially began as one. The problems lie in the implementation.

[demwing]

22. I don't have a perfect president

Does that rationalize Clinton's lie? Nope.

Clinton is the 2nd best President I've ever voted for. Obama the first. Neither is perfect, or een comes close.

[Cal33]

36. How about Nix Son? He was about as crooked and mean as they come.

[BlueMTexpat]

37. True - and the "Chicago Boys"

consolidated their positions in Central and South America among other awful things that we're still seeing the consequences of.

But Nix On would tie with Bush I in my 3rd worst position of US Presidents I have personally experienced. His time in office was not as wholly catastrophic in every way as were Saint Ronnie's and Dim Son's. There were a couple halfway decent events, such as long overdue recognition of China (which he had heartily opposed up to then) that occurred during Nix On's administration. And there were still people of principle in his administration like John Dean, who had not completely sold their souls.

It is interesting to me that among those who were taped as calling Nix On to express their support were Saint Ronnie and Bush I, both of whom became GOP Presidents later on.

Make no mistake. Whether Dem Prezzes disappoint us or not, they are a whole different breed than Rethugs. Rethugs do not consider ordinary people like you and me as having any rightful place in "their" world except as unquestioning serfs and cannon fodder. Dems at least acknowledge us as human beings with some claims to human rights.

And yes, our whole "democratic" system is thoroughly screwed up.

[liberal N proud]

11. Sorry about the technicality, A lie about a blow job

It still was a blow job.

[demwing]

12. whatever

[pnwmom]

41. The charges were a pile of crap put out by Rethugs looking for any excuse. n/t

[demwing]

42. Yep.

Sorry, were you thinking I disagreed?

[WouldbeCentrist]

7. I doubt it...

At the very least, even if they had the votes to begin the process would it really go anywhere? Remember, the Democratically-controlled Senate eventually becomes involved in the process.

Everyone knows that this impeachment process would be a party-line vote and I feel that some of the more moderate Republicans (or as Tea-Partiers call them, "RINOs&quot will stand against it for that very reason.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

8. Republicans have set the bar impossibly HIGH for impeachment for THEIR Presidents

but have set the bar extremely LOW for impeachment for Democratic Presidents. It's a good thing (for them) that Democrats are more interested in doing other things and helping people rather than engaging in petty political retribution even when Republicans really, really deserve it. Democrats *should* really have been calling for impeachment from day 1 of the George W. Bush (mis-)Administration based simply on the malfeasance of the Bush 2000 campaign and the voter disenfranchisement efforts and other assorted electoral *irregularities* in Florida under Bush's brother and then-Secretary of State Katherine Harris. Until President Obama matches or exceeds the malfeasance and IMHO criminality of the Bush/Cheney regime during their eight long years in power, Republicans just need to STFU about impeachment! No matter what the Republicans say, the IRS didn't just go after conservative groups and it wasn't instigated by President Obama anyway and what happened in Benghazi was certainly tragic but it was no more of an impeachable offense than Bush and his (mis-)administration failing to do everything that they could to prevent the deaths of 3000 American civilians on 9/11/01, the 60-70 people killed in Embassy attacks throughout the world during the rest of the Bush (P)residency, and, more importantly, the thousands of senseless American and Iraqi civilian deaths and casualties resulting from the completely preventable and unnecessary invasion and occupation of Iraq.

[winter is coming]

13. No. n/t

[Proud Liberal Dem]

14. How can somebody be "perilously close" to "High Crimes & Misdemeanors"?

They either are or they aren't. Coburn isn't saying what he thinks President Obama might even be guilty of in the first place let alone explain how he is "perilously close" to impeachment. The picture in the OP illustrates the current insanity of the Republican Tea Party perfectly..........

[DFW]

18. Some Republicans in Congress also said that Obama's trip to India cost $200 million a day. True?

They're just repeating what they heard on Fox Noise. If you believe what you hear on Fox Noise, then you're one of those people who thought Mother Goose was a high school history textbook.

[Xyzse]

23. False

There isn't anything that they can legally get him. At least as things stand currently.

I mean, everything they have been putting up mostly equals "Governing While Black".

Even the article basically mentions:

No. No, they won’t. You figured that was the answer here, right?

Partly that’s because some of the Republicans who have mentioned it may just be trying to appease their audience. In open forums, GOP lawmakers continue to get constituent questions dealing with the discredited notion that Obama was born in Kenya. A pivot to notional impeachment talk is one way to handle these queries.

This is just sad.

[notadmblnd]

26. And then he provided a list of High Crimes and Misdemeanors that the President has committed

...oh wait?

[Skittles]

27. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Peacetrain]

28. What would he be impeached for?

That makes no sense.. other than trying to stir a pot with a wet noodle

[Proud Liberal Dem]

32. Next big shiny object to distract the base

Giving them a reason to show up and vote for them next year?

[madamesilverspurs]

30. whatevah. . .

[BlueToTheBone]

33. Of course

Being president while black and a democrat is always grounds for impeachment.

[BlueDemKev]

34. Coburn (R-OK) is a moron from Teabagistan...

...the fictional republic which exists in the tea-baggers' alternate universe.

[Liberal Veteran]

35. Yes, it is true. Apparently, Pres. Obama puts his pants on "left leg first"...

That is impeachable by GOP standards for impeachment.

[Bluenorthwest]

38. Coburn is a wacked out far right nincompoop. Here is another example of his wisdom:

"Lesbianism is so rampant in some of the schools in southeast Oklahoma that they'll only let one girl go to the bathroom. Now think about it. Think about that issue. How is it that that's happened to us?"
Tom Coburn

He just makes shit up and lies with impunity. Obama has praised this fool many times, says they are dear friends and brothers in Christ and that their wives are very close as well, but to me, Coburn is a hate mongering liar.

[Blue Idaho]

39. The racism that runs through the core

Of the modern Republican Party is so cruel, so obvious, and so indemic it makes the party a clear and present danger to our constitution and our democracy. The only impeachment and removal from office warranted includes the leaders of these modern day John Birchers.

[Douglas Carpenter]

40. I think the rightwing base has become so intoxicated on crackpot rhetoric that requires constant

upping the ante that rightwing politicians who need that base have to keep humoring them with crazyland kool-aid

[polynomial]

44. We have this character Senator Coburn

Here we have this character Senator Coburn that can speak with some intelligence. But, just because a person can talk doesn’t make them a smart person. Over the years listening to him does offer some advice to the American electorate. That electorate is his home state because Mr. Coburn would never get my vote. Actually this whole scene points to a change in representation whereas besides a statewide election for representatives those same representatives would have to pass a national election to be in office.

Just like Mitch McConnell saying all the time what the American people want. To me that type of logic is similar to that scene in “Star Gate” where the Alien is staring down the clock connected to an atomic bomb going to explode within seconds. McConnell’s time is up yet he is watching it. Worse, the people that voted for him have exhausted their shame and deception willing to explode into oblivion being obstinate rather than conservative to repair or improve the system.

My reading DU is an education to both improve my understanding of the American Psychic Medium we have on this blog. Plus it transcends the muscle mainstream media thugs, like the electromagnet Journalist we the people hear and watch called morning, afternoon, evening anchors.

Being poetic for the moment, what ship or where do they dock to anchor, that battle ship USS military industrial complex, or that yacht of the Federal Reserve/ Stock Market. Oh yes, that Cruiser the love boat, sweet bails of dribbles and laughter while money traded in derivatives secrets swapped for content we don’t know of till we vote for it, or never get the chance. Yes, every day is like Christmas morning for the one percent.

[Lil Missy]

45. Being Black is not an impeachable offense. n/t