2016 Postmortem
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I think we retain the Senate and take the House with a narrow margin. Here is why I say that: This is going bad and getting worse and on the verge of causing a deep and long-lasting schism within the gOP. When the gOP cave to the Dems, and they will, the teacup Taliban will lose their damn minds and these half-witted Children of the Corn will pursue the unfaithful to excommunicate them from the Family. In other words, they will primary every one of the unfaithful they can manage. The amazing fact is that they will win more primaries than they ever have. Why? Because mid-term primaries have and will ALWAYS will have, very low participation. 2014 will be an exceptional year of "who gives a shit" for the gOP as disenchanted "conservatives" stay home that day and watch old Ray-gun videos and throw darts are Ted Cruz photos. Main stream gOP Congress-critters will fall as fast as Isaac can swing his scythe. How will this become the worse day for the gOP since Obama was born in a hut in Kenya and declared himself a muslin gay black man (soft and durable) is that this will reinvigorate the Children of the Corn and they will redouble their efforts to turn the United States into ChirstianFreedomGunTown and will lose 90% or more of every election they are running a candidate. Period. Why? No mainstream gOP voter is going to pull the lever for Bobo the idiot circus boy but they are not going to vote for a Democrat either...they just won't vote. Here is where that is a problem for the Children. The gerrymandered districts have white, conservative majorities but not if they don't vote. In only the very fewest of places are their enough crazies in crazytown to carry a teacup candidate. The morning after, you have a Democratic candidate representing what would otherwise be a red, gerrymandered district. The morning after, Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House. The morning after our President will get to work with a government in his last two years that he should have had for 8 years. The morning after will a better day than the day before.
DrewSG
(4 posts)Your optimism is nice, but if the democrats can't take back the House during a presidential year.. they will never take it back in an off year.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Welcome to DU
17 years ago I would have agreed with you. The teacup Taliban are breaking new ground...they didn't exist in 1995-96 or 1990 or 1984 or 1979. This is something different. They are the factor that makes the end game a little hard to guess at but the result won't be good for anybody.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)but under a different name... the John Birch Society. In that form they go back 50 years and even earlier if you follow its beginnings.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)There is no actual Party called Tea. They are Republicans with a cutesie nickname.
kathman-duzi
(82 posts)defacto7
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The whole Republican party is not the Tea Party. The Tea Party is a specific group within the GOP that is extreme right and have an ideology of dis-empowering the US Federal government. They are the ones causing all the havoc within the GOP right now holding Boner to their no-ACA position "or he'll lose his job". Now, It is empowered by religious fanaticism on the theme of Dominionism. The Tea Party's political position is similar to the John Birch Society position except the JBS adds divvying up the remnants to the states, and making business interests the new leadership. It's like Libertarian in a way, but very different in the extremes. The JBS has been pushing this ideology for many years and the Koch brothers father was the leader of the JBS in the 1960's. JBS has been determined to get into this position, undercutting the government for a very long time. JBS (and the Tea Party) are extremely anticommunist. Why? because they are fascists.
2naSalit
(86,612 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)It will still be an uphill fight in the House. Redistricting ans the seats that we are left with will make it quite difficult. But there is always hope
trublu992
(489 posts)Also they are republicans who won by slim margins in the house who aren't in tea party infested districts.
They won because Dems stayed home and the backlash against Obamacare was in full swing. So there could be some hope
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Here in Oregon we had record setting turnout. Some 'Blue Dog' type candidates were a turnoff to independents who simply voted for the real Republican instead of the fake one.
If you want something more than hope, you should dig into facts and find out who did not vote where then do something about that. Claims that 'Dems stayed home' are just rhetorical blather that will not help. It is for one thing very insulting to say 'Dems stayed home' when many States had excellent turnout. What are we, not Democrats because we don't fit your narrative? The whole west coast does not count? We are excluded from the thought process?
trublu992
(489 posts)they were apathetic. I'm speaking for 2010 elections where I was working to register people to vote and many Dems told me they were
to pissed off about healthcare not being single payer to vote. They felt the dems weren't doing anything. Overall 2010 elections were low
voter turnout. Secondly the tone of my post was not accusatory or critical it was just a reflective thought. So I don't know where
your "What are we, not Democrats because we don't fit your narrative?" sentiment came from but you seriously overreacted.