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Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. John Boehner leadershp phillosphy is to get in front of an angry mob and run....
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:34 PM
Oct 2013

At this point, the Tea Party Caucus is the angry mob chasing his orange ass.

He will only stop it if he can find an angry mob that is running a different direction.

I won't hold my breath. I think we will go over the cliff.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
3. You mean will the tea bag freaks be able to end the shut down
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:35 PM
Oct 2013

Boehner is a p*ss*y and not controlling anything he's a puppet on a string

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
4. He wants to continue it through October 17, and then cause a credit default. He is now leading the
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:36 PM
Oct 2013

teabaggers along with Cruz to their goal of crippling the economy and blaming it on the President.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
5. If he allows a vote I'm sure it will pass.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:38 PM
Oct 2013

They seem to have enough votes from Dems and a few Repubs to start-up again.
If they have enough votes to end the shut-down I'm sure those same votes would be good to raise the ceiling.
It all comes down to whether he allows a vote.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
16. So he personally will be responsible for crashing the world economy.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 02:23 PM
Oct 2013

If he does this I wouldn't expect he will be alive too much longer. \

With all the richest men in the world knowing one person is responsible for their fortunes declining I would think that even though Silk Road is gone, there might be some hit men who would be able to score big soon after.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. All he has to do is get a resolution to the floor
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:41 PM
Oct 2013

There are enough "not insane" GOP votes which, combined with the D votes, make it a simple thing to do.

The only thing stopping him is that if he does so, then he might lose his gavel.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
9. If I read it correctly - he has 13 days left to resolve both issues -
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:47 PM
Oct 2013

what happens if he ends the shut-down, only to be thrown out of the Speaker's chair? Can a new Speaker be elected in time to get the debt ceiling raised, and would the new Speaker be willing to do that?

"To be elected as Speaker, a candidate must receive an absolute majority of all votes cast for individuals, i.e. excluding those who abstain. If no candidate wins such a majority, then the roll call is repeated until a Speaker is elected. The last time repeated votes were required was in 1923, when the Speaker was elected on the ninth ballot"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

Peacetrain

(22,876 posts)
10. If he would just let the bills come to a vote like he is supposed to
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:50 PM
Oct 2013

He would have no issues. He gave power to a select group of people who have bullied and I mean bullied the other member of their party with the help of people like the Koch Brothers..

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
12. How is a Speaker deposed? If he lets the bill come to a vote, the Tea Party types
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:52 PM
Oct 2013

will be after his hide?

Peacetrain

(22,876 posts)
13. Oh yeah.. I am sure they would
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:54 PM
Oct 2013

That is where courage of your convictions come into play..but again.. if he would stand up..there is a hard core of them..but you can back bullies down, . there is nothing we can do to help Boehner out of this mess.. It is one of his own choosing.

2naSalit

(86,615 posts)
14. It seems this is all about
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:57 PM
Oct 2013

his skewed sense of self worth. Eugene Robinson said, last night, that Boner has been a failure in the House for most of his career and that this is his probable last hurrah and he desperately wants to be "somebody". It would seem that losing his job would be a hangin' offense in his polluted brain so he can't do the right thing for the country because he won't appear to be a "good guy" in the history books... you know, the revisionist ones.

What a simpleton!

Yo, voters in Ohio, get some Independents to run for office if you think the D name is too much for the R voters to swallow! Get him out of our government... and that goes for the rest of that crowd of country crashing shills! They are dangerous to every living thing on the planet.

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